[Shotimes] OT - IRL Gen 4 Chevy, NOT!

[Ron Porter]

Cosworth had a good reputation long before Ford bought them. Similar to
Lotus, that does work for MANY car companies.

Harley Davidson had Porsche help them with the V-Rod. Porsche had a few
Japanese companies help them with production engineering. Porsche helped
Mercedes with one (or more, don't recall the details) of their new engines.

It's the new reality. The company gets work where they can, and the customer
gets work done where they feel they get the best results.

Ron Porter 

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:45 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - IRL Gen 4 Chevy, NOT!


DAve,

Cosworth is an engineering firm and they do work for MANY 
clients.  Ford may own the firm, but they don't and should 
NOT control who they do work for.

As with a lot of this type of firm, they do work in secret 
for a lot of companies, even the "competition".  Thus 
Cosworth, owned by Ford can do work for GM, but the work is 
kept secret and not shared with Ford.  Otherwise, NOBODY 
would do ANY work with Cosworth.

Before Cosworth was purchased by Ford, they did work for all 
sorts of companies.  In racing you go with people that can 
get things done, and no matter who owns them, Cosworth is 
one of the best.

Ford bought Cosworth to get some of their expertise, but 
also to make money.  For Cosworth to make money, they must 
do work for all their old and new clients, not just Ford.

Everyone in the engineering and racing community KNOWS the 
contribution that Cosworth made, and yesterdays race raised 
their stock in trade a huge amount.  They got all the credit 
they needed or asked for.  Quite often a deal like this is 
kept secret.  I applaud Chevy for going public and fixing a 
very embarrassing problem.

Lots of big companies need help.  Ferrari gets outside help, 
same with Mercedes, BMW and others.  They hire the 
competitions people, hire engineering firms, buy stuff off 
the shelf, even in F1.

Needing help is also not anything to be ashamed of.  Happens 
to all the makes/racers at one time or another.  Roush, 
Penske, etc.

Don Mallinson

Dave Kegel wrote:
> Yes.  I can't believe that deal went through.  Gen 4 Chevy.  What BS is
> that?  Neither Ford nor Cosworth get any official credit, air time, or
> marketing out of that deal.  Why the heck would they help bail out Chevy,
or
> the IRL for that matter, which is the rival series to the Ford Powered
CART
> series?   And how will they be able to compete against them in a year or
two
> if CART goes belly up?
> 
> Dave Kegel
> Still a CART fan first and foremost, but I do watch all the IRL races too.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don McKinnon (AST)" <dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: July 28, 2003 12:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT - IRL Gen 4 Chevy, NOT!
> 
> 
> 
>>IMHO, it is yet another Ford mistake!  Just think Ford could have come
> 
> into
> 
>>IRL and be a major presence, instead it lets GM pull their head out of
> 
> their
> 
>>ass...
> 
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