[Shotimes] Window tint.
troy gulbrandson
mohlman21@hotmail.com
Wed, 04 Jun 2003 21:38:07 -0500
any one know any body shops or a guy who is good at window tinting that
would be located in nebraska. THat might also be pretty cheap. i would also
like to thank all the guys that helped me with my fuel pump infomation.
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> 1. Re: engine problem, please help with diagnosis (van Oss)
> 2. Re: engine problem, please help with diagnosis (Steve Weinrich)
> 3. Re: Re: O2 simulators (Justin Schick)
> 4. Re: Re: O2 simulators (Kevin & Cheryl Airth)
> 5. Re: engine problem, please help with diagnosis (van Oss)
> 6. vent functions (-Newmy-)
> 7. Re: subwoofer replacement (Kevin & Cheryl Airth)
> 8. Convention Caravan & Golf (Ron Porter)
> 9. Re: MAF vs. Speed Density (Kevin & Cheryl Airth)
> 10. RE: MAF vs. Speed Density (Don McKinnon (AST))
> 11. Re: engine problem, please help with diagnosis (Dave Kegel)
> 12. ANYONE SHO Inclined in the NEW JERSEY AREA (Frank Costa)
> 13. Re: vent functions (Kevin & Cheryl Airth)
>
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>
>Message: 1
>Reply-To: "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net>
>From: "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net>
>To: "Justin Schick" <jschick@aafp.org>, <shotimes@autox.team.net>, "Dave
> Kegel" <d.kegel@attbi.com>
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] engine problem, please help with diagnosis
>Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:07:07 -0500
>
>Codes are clear. I'm going to try swapping the fuel filter first. The
>pump
>does seem loud, though. It's a but surprising to suspect the pump because
>I
>did replace it about 6K ago.
>
>Joseph va Oss
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>Having a problem with the 91. Symptoms and medical history below.
>Please suggest what I should test or swap. Thanks.
>
>Joseph van Oss
>
>Symptoms:
>- Long cranking time before start, gradually occurring more often
> over the last two weeks
>- Idle wanders up to 3K
>- Occasionally idle dives to 500, lopey, no power, and stalls
> if you step on gas
>- No CE light
>
>History:
>- 91 mtx with 140K
>- Within last 2 years: Rod bearings, CID, CPS, timing belt,
> fuel pump, plugs/wires, much more
>- Extremely reliable and quick-starting up until about 2 weeks ago
>
>Again, thanks.
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 2
>From: "Steve Weinrich" <stevwein@swbell.net>
>To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] engine problem, please help with diagnosis
>Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:55:11 -0500
>
>IAB valve.
>
>It is responsible for controlling idle. When it goes bad, strange things
>happen, including every symptom you mentioned.
>
>Try cracking the throttle 1/4 way while cranking and see if it starts. If
>so, the IAB is probably the fault.
>
>Also, run the KEOR test to see if the computer can in fact controll idle.
>
>Steve
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Justin Schick" <jschick@aafp.org>
>To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:39 AM
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] engine problem, please help with diagnosis
>
>
> > Are you giving yourself a couple second delay between moving the key
> > from ON to START, so the fuel pump can pressurize the system? I wait for
> > the low coolant light to go out before starting my 92, seems to coincide
> > with the pump's pump-up time.
> >
> > Anyway, I would start by checking the fuel pressure. How old is the
> > fuel filter?
> >
> > Justin
> > '92 SHO in KC MO, 190k and counting
> > SHOTimes list info: http://www.shotimes.com/SHO1.html
> >
> >
> > >>> "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net> 06/04/03 11:31AM >>>
> > Having a problem with the 91. Symptoms and medical history below.
> > Please
> > suggest what I should test or swap. Thanks.
> >
> > Joseph van Oss
> >
> > Symptoms:
> > - Long cranking time before start, gradually occurring more often over
> > the
> > last two weeks
> > - Idle wanders up to 3K
> > - Occasionally idle dives to 500, lopey, no power, and stalls if you
> > step on
> > gas
> > - No CE light
> >
> > History:
> > - 91 mtx with 140K
> > - Within last 2 years: Rod bearings, CID, CPS, timing belt, fuel
> > pump,
> > plugs/wires, much more
> > - Extremely reliable and quick-starting up until about 2 weeks ago
> >
> > Again, thanks.
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 15:13:04 -0500
>From: "Justin Schick" <jschick@aafp.org>
>To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: O2 simulators
>
>Thanks much for the clarification. Amazingly enough, my friend that
>swears by them has removed the cats on the afore mentioned vehicles,
>both of which use(d) more than 2 O2s. I just never knew the mods were
>inter-dependent.
>
>Justin
>
> >>> "Kevin & Cheryl Airth" <clubairth@peoplepc.com> 06/04/03 03:06PM
> >>>
>Justin:
> I am a little confused? How is the car going to run very good if the
>PCM
>does not know if the mixture is too rich or too lean?
> I think the function of O2 simulators is not understood. The only
>reason
>these came into use is on OBD II cars that have 4 O2 sensors. One
>before and
>one after each converter. If you remove the catalytic converters you
>will
>get a continuous check engine light. The rear two sensors can be
>simulated
>and "fool" the PCM into thinking the converters are in place and
>working
>properly. The rear 2 sensors are not used for any engine control
>functions.
> Since your 92 only has 2 O2 sensors you don't want or need this mod.
>Also
>if you remove your converters the PCM will not know the difference,
>other
>than the change in airflow due to the change in exhaust back pressure.
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 4
>From: "Kevin & Cheryl Airth" <clubairth@peoplepc.com>
>To: "Justin Schick" <jschick@aafp.org>, <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Re: O2 simulators
>Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:06:02 -0500
>
>Justin:
> I am a little confused? How is the car going to run very good if the PCM
>does not know if the mixture is too rich or too lean?
> I think the function of O2 simulators is not understood. The only reason
>these came into use is on OBD II cars that have 4 O2 sensors. One before
>and
>one after each converter. If you remove the catalytic converters you will
>get a continuous check engine light. The rear two sensors can be simulated
>and "fool" the PCM into thinking the converters are in place and working
>properly. The rear 2 sensors are not used for any engine control functions.
> Since your 92 only has 2 O2 sensors you don't want or need this mod. Also
>if you remove your converters the PCM will not know the difference, other
>than the change in airflow due to the change in exhaust back pressure.
>.
>.
>
>
>
>
> > From what I've been told they simulate stoic (sp?) fuel mixture signal
> > at all times. So is that fooling the ECM in a good way or a bad way? I
> > don't want something along the lines of those resistors you put in line
> > with your incoming air temp sensor that "give you 20 HP". If the car
> > will run better with Bosch O2s, that's how I'll go. Don't want it to run
> > worse (or melt my cats) just to have my CEL out. Thanks for the input!
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > >>> "Steve Weinrich" <stevwein@swbell.net> 06/04/03 08:43AM >>>
> > They just fool the computer into thinking that you have a set of
> > working O2
> > sensors.
> >
> > Primary application is for use with an off-road pipe with no cats.
> > These
> > will prevent the CEL from coming on due to lack of proper sigam from
> > the
> > sensors.
> >
> > They're sensor simulators.
> >
> > Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Justin Schick" <jschick@aafp.org>
> > To: <stevwein@swbell.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:40 AM
> > Subject: [Shotimes] Re: O2 simulators
> >
> >
> > > Would you classify them as worthwhile? My Pontiac buddy is in love
> > with
> > > them, but then again all he can talk about is modifying his car,
> > > justifiable / worthwhile or not.
> > >
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > >>> "Steve Weinrich" <stevwein@swbell.net> 06/04/03 08:37AM >>>
> > > Try a Google search for "MIL eliminators".
> > >
> > > You can buy them for around $30 per pair or make your own if you're
> > up
> > > to
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Justin Schick" <jschick@aafp.org>
> > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>; <TechSHO@topica.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:21 AM
> > > Subject: O2 simulators
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm looking for any input on these little critters. I recall some
> > > kind
> > > > of post about them here a long while back. My only other
> > experience
> > > is a
> > > > friend that used them in his old WS6, and new GTP. I'm in need of
> > > > replacing my O2s, and am debating if I should try these or not.
> > > >
> > > > Justin
> > > > '92 SHO in KC MO, 190k and counting
> > > > SHOTimes list info: http://www.shotimes.com/SHO1.html
> > _______________________________________________
> > Shotimes mailing list
> > Shotimes@autox.team.net
> > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes
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>
>Message: 5
>Reply-To: "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net>
>From: "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net>
>To: "Justin Schick" <jschick@aafp.org>, <shotimes@autox.team.net>, "Dave
> Kegel" <d.kegel@attbi.com>
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] engine problem, please help with diagnosis
>Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:06:14 -0500
>
>More info about symptoms:
>
>- It seems to be intermittent. I drove some errands this afternoon and the
>car behaved normally in all respects. This morning I was stranded at a
>stoplight. Go figure.
>
>- May be temp-related. Idle behavior seems more normal when warmed up.
>
>- Car is running hot. Dash gauge is pegged on N. Radiator and hoses are
>about 10K. During KOEO test the radiator fan is supposed to come on, yes?
>Mine does not. There is voltage at the connector. Fan motor is bad, yes?
>
>Joseph van Oss
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>Codes are clear. I'm going to try swapping the fuel filter first. The
>pump
>does seem loud, though. It's a but surprising to suspect the pump because
>I
>did replace it about 6K ago.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>Having a problem with the 91. Symptoms and medical history below.
>Please suggest what I should test or swap. Thanks.
>
>Symptoms:
>- Long cranking time before start, gradually occurring more often
> over the last two weeks
>- Idle wanders up to 3K
>- Occasionally idle dives to 500, lopey, no power, and stalls
> if you step on gas
>- No CE light
>
>History:
>- 91 mtx with 140K
>- Within last 2 years: Rod bearings, CID, CPS, timing belt,
> fuel pump, plugs/wires, much more
>- Extremely reliable and quick-starting up until about 2 weeks ago
>
>Again, thanks.
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 14:54:40 -0500
>From: -Newmy- <thenewmster@shaw.ca>
>To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: [Shotimes] vent functions
>
>Hi all..
>Just noticed when I went to use the a/c on my '90, that it wasnt coming out
>the vent. Instead all the functions only come out the defrost.
>Could this be that tinny little diaphram that has the vacuum line going to
>it?And has the arm attached to the other side? Just curious as I have a
>spare from one of my other SHO's and thought I would ask before pulling
>stuff apart..
>thanks
>Curt
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 7
>From: "Kevin & Cheryl Airth" <clubairth@peoplepc.com>
>To: "Bill Murray" <fordsho@cloud9grafx.com>, "SHOTimes"
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] subwoofer replacement
>Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 14:43:13 -0500
>
>Bill:
> I think your right on the signal level. Also that small of a driver needs
>to be pushed harder to get as low as possible. The box volume is acutally
>almost perfect for the JL Audio speaker. We have somewhere around .33 ft3
>in
>the box and that's within the recomened range for the subwoofer. The 8"
>models usually are looking for more volume. I thought about a free air
>setup
>but nobody I talked to had any good comments. I also could not find anybody
>with decent sound running one.
>.
>.
>
>
>
> > There are 2 reasons why it sounds better with better amp running it.
> > The JBL amp is 6ohms, and if you run the sub at 4 ohms, the JBL amp is
> > most likely sending it a somewhat distorted signal. The other reason is
> > probably that the JBL box is either too big or too small for the JL sub.
> > If I was looking to keep the same mounting style, I would either find an
> > 8" sub that worked with the volume of the JBL sub box, or get something
> > like the JL IB8, with is a free air sub, and just mount it to the top
> > half of the JBL box, and leave the bottom half off. When I bought my
> > first SHO, it had an MTX 8" sub in the JBL sub box, running off a 120w
> > Sony amp. It wasn't a window shacker, but it was ok, at low to moderate
> > listening levels.
> >
> > Bill Murray
> >
>
> >
> > Jim:
> > He is wrong. The 6W0 is different from the rest of the JL line. It is
> > single voice coil only and 4 or 8 ohms depending on how you wire it up.
> > One
> > part number only. Here is the factory page for this unit. I don't know
> > what
> > the retail price is.
> > http://www.jlaudio.com/subwoofers/6w0.html
> >
> > One of mine runs just fine using the stock JBL amp but I think it
> > sounds
> > better with higher quality electronics pushing it. It really is too
> > small to
> > be a proper subwoofer but I like how the box fits the car.
> > .
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > My son in law owns a stereo shop in Ohio. He says (can't back it
> > myself
> > > because I haven't heard one personally) that the JL Audio speakers
> > required
> > > more to drive them than the JBL amp will put out. Also, 6WO is only
> > part
> > of
> > > the number. you have to specify the Ohms since JL makes them in
> > 4,6,8,and
> > > 12 Ohms (I think it was a 6WO-6) or something like that)
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> >
> > >
> > > Joe:
> > > I found a perfect drop in high quality replacement. JL Audio makes
> > 6.5"
> > > subwoofer. 6W0. They are a little hard to find. I got two on E-bay for
> > > $70/pair. Used one in a stock application and sounded great. I used
> > the
> > > other speaker in my aftermarket setup. I added the factory box and did
> > not
> > > like the factory driver. Comparing the stock JBL to the JL unit shows
> > the
> > > quality difference!
> > > .
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sounds like a great choice. I tried 4-ohm and 8-ohm replacements
> > when
> > my
> > > > original sub went bye-bye. Not because I expected them to work,
> > just to
> > > see
> > > > what would happen.
> > > >
> > > > Result (as most of you expect): sounded horrible.
> > > >
> > > > I ended up getting an OEM replacement (thanks Al).
> > > >
> > > > Steve "Still have to pop zits once in a while" Tatro
> > > > Red/Black '93 with 167k miles
> > > > Cincinnati, Ohio
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > PIONEER C16EU20-52D 6-1/2" POLY WOOFER
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > it has the correct resistance (6 Ohms)
> > > > > and can be bought from:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage.cfm?webpage_id=3&SO=2&&DID=7&CATID=4
> > 9&Ob
> > > > > jectGroup_ID=488
> > > > >
> > > > > pardon me.... I have to go pop my zits
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I posted earlier today about an inoperative subwoofer.
> > > > >
> > > > > The winners are Jim Leyden and Dave Kegel for suggesting it might
> > be
> > the
> > > > > speaker itself. Volt meter says there is current coming to it
> > (fraction
> > > > of
> > > > > a volt, does that seem right?) and resistance across the terminals
> > of
> > > the
> > > > > speaker is infinite.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I'm off to the store. Someone recently recommended a
> > particular
> > > brand
> > > > > and model number as a good replacement for the stock subwoofer ---
> > could
> > > > > someone repost that info? Please? Thanks much.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, where's a good source for the rubber grommets used where the
> > > > mounting
> > > > > studs come up through holes in the parcel shelf?
> > > > >
> > > > > Joseph van Oss
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 8
>From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
>To: "Shotimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>, "SHO Tech"
> <techsho@topica.com>
>Cc: "John Hamilton" <hamssho@nexicom.net>, "John Hrinsin"
> <john.hrinsin@mrgasket.com>, "Kirk Doucette"
> <kirk.doucette@verizon.net>, "Allen L. Short" <aljesho@core.com>,
> "Larry Schleen" <Ursula.schleen@sympatico.ca>
>Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 14:49:30 -0400
>Subject: [Shotimes] Convention Caravan & Golf
>
>To all,
>
>I have given Don the information on the Convention Caravan from the Midwest
>that we will be starting in eastern Indiana on Monday July 14th. The info
>should be posted to the SHO Club website sometime soon, but I can get a
>copy
>(plus a PDF of the caravan window sign) to anyone who wants it.
>
>We will be stopping for lunch in Naperville, and hope to pick up some of
>the
>SHOcago folks at that point. We should arrive at the hotel before 4 PM on
>Monday.
>
>Also, I will be bringing my golf clubs as usual, and will be planning on
>playing on Tuesday morning July 15th during the Car Show. There are a few
>courses in the area, and one that is relatively close to the hotel, so I
>may
>go for a tee time around 9AM at that one. Don't know anything about it, but
>for the way I play, ANY course is a challenge! I will make a tee time for a
>foursome, but if anyone is interested please let me know so that I can plan
>accordingly.
>
>Even if your car is entered in the Car Show, "you do not need to be present
>to win" (to paraphrase every other contest out there!!), so bring the
>clubs
>and let's hack 'em!!!
>
>Ron Porter
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 9
>From: "Kevin & Cheryl Airth" <clubairth@peoplepc.com>
>To: "Don McKinnon \(AST\)" <dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com>,
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] MAF vs. Speed Density
>Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:38:00 -0500
>
>Don:
> I am surprised that a new motor would have a speed density system on it?
>
>The speed density is cheaper and simpler. Uses less sensors. It usually is
>a
>stop gap setup used after carburetors and before a full on MAF system. Most
>aftermarket EFI setups use speed density.
>
>The MAF is a much more precise engine management system. Almost all
>vehicles
>were forced to a MAF system to meet the fuel economy standards as well as
>emissions and drivability.
>
>Maybe GM found an advantage going back to the speed density?
>.
>.
>
> > What are the advantages again of using a MAF vs. Speed Density, if any?
> >
> > My 2003 Trailblazer XL has a nice motor I wish could show up in a car,
>DOHC
> > 4.2l Inline 6 with VVT, coated pistons, etc., and uses Speed Density.
> >
> > Don McKinnon
> > 95 MTX
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 10
>From: "Don McKinnon \(AST\)" <dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com>
>To: "Kevin & Cheryl Airth" <clubairth@peoplepc.com>,
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] MAF vs. Speed Density
>Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 17:41:21 -0400
>
>It's not just GM, Subura is doing the same thing on many of the post 99
>models, cheaper probably has every thing to do wit it I'm sure. I found
>this today on-line:
>
>----
>So which is better, MAP or MAF?
>While Air-Flow systems are still favored by most manufacturers due to their
>accuracy, speed-density systems are slowing gaining favor once again due to
>advances in electronic engine management. In order for a speed-density
>(MAP)
>based system to offer the accuracy in A/F ratios to pass the stringent
>vehicle certification tests, advanced ECU technology must be used to cope
>with the speed-density's inability to optimally handle transient driving
>conditions (compared to an air-flow system).
>...
>The facts remain the same though, the air-flow systems are slightly more
>accurate at calculating proper Air/Fuel ratio under a wider variety of
>driving conditions. At Wide Open Throttle (WOT) though, they are both very
>similar. It's primarily under transient conditions (partial throttle
>changes/city driving) where they differ the most. Again, the differences
>are
>primarily in theory and hardly sometime you'll notice by the seat of your
>pants. Those of you with speed-density systems don't think your system
>needs
>to be improved by going to a air-flow setup. Keep this comforting thought
>in
>your head; nearly every aftermarket engine management system uses a
>speed-density system (ie: Haltech, TEC II, Motec, EFI, etc.).
>----
>
>Don McKinnon
>95 MTX - White/Mocha 91k miles
>Stage 1 Power Package with Stage 1cams
>Canyon Carver Road/Race Suspension
>Quaife & HiRevs Competition Clutch
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin & Cheryl Airth [mailto:clubairth@peoplepc.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:38 PM
>To: Don McKinnon (AST); shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] MAF vs. Speed Density
>
>
>Don:
> I am surprised that a new motor would have a speed density system on it?
>
>The speed density is cheaper and simpler. Uses less sensors. It usually is
>a
>stop gap setup used after carburetors and before a full on MAF system. Most
>aftermarket EFI setups use speed density.
>
>The MAF is a much more precise engine management system. Almost all
>vehicles
>were forced to a MAF system to meet the fuel economy standards as well as
>emissions and drivability.
>
>Maybe GM found an advantage going back to the speed density?
>.
>.
>
> > What are the advantages again of using a MAF vs. Speed Density, if any?
> >
> > My 2003 Trailblazer XL has a nice motor I wish could show up in a car,
>DOHC
> > 4.2l Inline 6 with VVT, coated pistons, etc., and uses Speed Density.
> >
> > Don McKinnon
> > 95 MTX
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 11
>Reply-To: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@attbi.com>
>From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@attbi.com>
>To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] engine problem, please help with diagnosis
>Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:39:34 -0500
>
>I doubt it's the filter. It's probably the check valve, allowing fuel to
>drain back in the tank. Both my SHOs seem to have this problem now. I
>just
>cycle the key an extra time, and live with it.
>
>If I forget to cycle the key, I have to wait a bit for the fuel pump to
>catch up. Otherwise it's a bit "stumbly". Like a race car! :)
>
>Dave
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net>
>To: "Justin Schick" <jschick@aafp.org>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>; "Dave
>Kegel" <d.kegel@attbi.com>
>Sent: June 04, 2003 1:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] engine problem, please help with diagnosis
>
>
> > Codes are clear. I'm going to try swapping the fuel filter first. The
>pump
> > does seem loud, though. It's a but surprising to suspect the pump
>because
>I
> > did replace it about 6K ago.
> >
> > Joseph va Oss
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 12
>Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 17:48:55 -0400
>From: Frank Costa <fcosta@comcast.net>
>To: "\"Shotimes\"" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Shotimes] ANYONE SHO Inclined in the NEW JERSEY AREA
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have been having some concerns with my car and i was wondering if anyone
>in the jersey area that knows of the SHO in a mechanics / maladoties sense
>could possibly allocate a day to just take a look at my car.
>
>I live in Linden NJ...
>
>Ill bring the beer....
>
>Frank
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 13
>From: "Kevin & Cheryl Airth" <clubairth@peoplepc.com>
>To: "-Newmy-" <thenewmster@shaw.ca>, <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] vent functions
>Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:56:11 -0500
>
>Curt:
> Run the EATC self diagnosis first. It should point you in the right
>direction.
>.
>.
>
>
> > Hi all..
> > Just noticed when I went to use the a/c on my '90, that it wasn't coming
>out the vent. Instead all the functions only come out the defrost.
> > Could this be that tinny little diaphragm that has the vacuum line going
>to it?And has the arm attached to the other side? Just curious as I have a
>spare from one of my other SHO's and thought I would ask before pulling
>stuff apart..
> > thanks
> > Curt
>
>
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>
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