[Shotimes] Aftermarket KYB Struts?

[Ron Porter]

No, it doesn't matter. My Konis were on full Firm in the rear, and setting
the fronts to full Soft didn't matter.

And it shouldn't. Struts are there to dampen spring motion. If you have
struts compensating for springs, it's not an optimal situation (like when
people use air shocks).

In general, the stiffer the car gets (AL SFBs, SFCs, stiffer spring, strut
tower braces F&R, etc), the less of a need for sway bars.

Sway bars are really a band-aid solution to a flexible body and a floppy
suspension, anyway. Open-wheel racers rarely have sway bars.....don't need
'em.

Ron Porter 

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Dave Kegel
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:52 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Aftermarket KYB Struts?


All those things affect the handling to some degree, but would not expect
matched struts and springs to change the balance.  I assume though, for
instance, if you had rear Konis set full stiff and the fronts full soft it
would oversteer pretty good, relative to having them set the same.

Yes, a front/rear tire pressure differential will always have an affect.

Dave Kegel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
To: "Don McKinnon (AST)" <dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com>;
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: June 11, 2003 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Aftermarket KYB Struts?


> ROTFLOL!!!  This is the kind of post I like.  SHO relevant with humor.
>
> Okay, your disclaimer then spawns two more questions.  If a car has a 0.84
> ratio, and the additional suspension mods include things like
> Tokico/Eibachs, poly all around and AL SFBs, does the ratio need to be
> reduced further to get a more balanced car?  What happens when one adds
> subframe connectors?
>
> Second question is, should I be able to compensate for balance and
decrease
> understeer if I reduce air pressure in the rear tires by a few pounds?
>
> Carl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don McKinnon (AST)" <dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com>
> To: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>;
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Aftermarket KYB Struts?
>
>
> > Those small bars makes for some good understeering, who cars about body
> roll
> > when it keeps going straight <LOL>!
> >
> > remember this from John Hrinsin awhile back...
> > ----------
> > ...
> > 24mm/23mm    1.34 you have got to be kidding
> >
> > 19mm/19mm     1.13     girlie mahn
> > 20.6mm/21mm     1.04
> > 22mm/23mm          .94
> >
> > 26mm/28mm         .84         safe predictable understeer
> > 24mm/26mm         .82
> > 19mm/21mm         .75
> > 20.6mm/23mm      .72
> >
> > 24mm/28mm         .61         good overall balance
> > 22mm/26mm         .58
> >
> > 19mm/23mm         .52        Gen III optimal
> >
> > 20.6mm/26mm      .44        on the tail happy side
> > 22mm/28mm         .42
> >
> > 20.6mm/28mm      .33        sick oversteer
> > 19mm/26mm         .32
> >
> > 19mm/28mm         .24         yeah, right
> >
> > Sway bar bushings material, spring rates, strut type, settings and
mounts,
> > degree of unibody stiffing, sub frame bushing material and differential
> > type all have an effect on the above. ..
> > -----
> >
> > Don McKinnon
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