[Shotimes] Aftermarket KYB Struts?

Dave Kegel Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@attbi.com
Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:09:31 -0500


I don't know for sure, but they always seem to talk about how the open wheel
guys can adjust the sway bars from inside the cockpit.

Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: June 11, 2003 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Aftermarket KYB Struts?


 Open-wheel racers rarely have sway bars.....don't need 'em.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Dave Kegel
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:52 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Aftermarket KYB Struts?
>
>
> All those things affect the handling to some degree, but would not expect
> matched struts and springs to change the balance.  I assume though, for
> instance, if you had rear Konis set full stiff and the fronts full soft it
> would oversteer pretty good, relative to having them set the same.
>
> Yes, a front/rear tire pressure differential will always have an affect.
>
> Dave Kegel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
> To: "Don McKinnon (AST)" <dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com>;
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: June 11, 2003 4:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Aftermarket KYB Struts?
>
>
> > ROTFLOL!!!  This is the kind of post I like.  SHO relevant with humor.
> >
> > Okay, your disclaimer then spawns two more questions.  If a car has a
0.84
> > ratio, and the additional suspension mods include things like
> > Tokico/Eibachs, poly all around and AL SFBs, does the ratio need to be
> > reduced further to get a more balanced car?  What happens when one adds
> > subframe connectors?
> >
> > Second question is, should I be able to compensate for balance and
> decrease
> > understeer if I reduce air pressure in the rear tires by a few pounds?
> >
> > Carl
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don McKinnon (AST)" <dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com>
> > To: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>;
> > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Aftermarket KYB Struts?
> >
> >
> > > Those small bars makes for some good understeering, who cars about
body
> > roll
> > > when it keeps going straight <LOL>!
> > >
> > > remember this from John Hrinsin awhile back...
> > > ----------
> > > ...
> > > 24mm/23mm    1.34 you have got to be kidding
> > >
> > > 19mm/19mm     1.13     girlie mahn
> > > 20.6mm/21mm     1.04
> > > 22mm/23mm          .94
> > >
> > > 26mm/28mm         .84         safe predictable understeer
> > > 24mm/26mm         .82
> > > 19mm/21mm         .75
> > > 20.6mm/23mm      .72
> > >
> > > 24mm/28mm         .61         good overall balance
> > > 22mm/26mm         .58
> > >
> > > 19mm/23mm         .52        Gen III optimal
> > >
> > > 20.6mm/26mm      .44        on the tail happy side
> > > 22mm/28mm         .42
> > >
> > > 20.6mm/28mm      .33        sick oversteer
> > > 19mm/26mm         .32
> > >
> > > 19mm/28mm         .24         yeah, right
> > >
> > > Sway bar bushings material, spring rates, strut type, settings and
> mounts,
> > > degree of unibody stiffing, sub frame bushing material and
differential
> > > type all have an effect on the above. ..
> > > -----
> > >
> > > Don McKinnon
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