[Shotimes] CEL again

[Steve Tatro]

This all developed at once?  Strange, as the 211 and 214 point to PIP (crank
position sensor) and CID (cylinder identification or camshaft sensor)
respectively.  Would be miraculous if they both went bad at the same time!

I missed your first message, so I'm not sure what symptoms you're having.
If it's stalling for no reason after driving for awhile, and then is hard to
restart, I would guess CPS.  If it starts fine when cold but has problems
restarting when already warm, I'd guess the CID.

There's a relatively easy way to test your CID.  You unplug the sensor,
start the car.  It may take a few tries, but eventually it will fire.  If it
runs without the problems you previously experienced, the sensor is bad.  If
you're still experiencing the same problems, look elsewhere for a solution.

I don't know of an easy way to test the CPS.  Typically the 211 means to
replace it.

Good luck.

Steve Tatro
Red/Black '93 with 168k miles
Cincinnati, Ohio

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] CEL again


> Okay, okay, fair enough.  MY is 92.  The car has a Pro-M 77mm MAF.  I seem
> to recall that this MAF can cause some codes to surface.
>
> I ran through both tests twice.
>
> KOEO .  211 and a 214.       <---  These sound bad from the description.
>
> When I ran the next test, I did receive the engine ID code of "3" as the
> procedure indicates.
> KOER.   111                        <---  I know this is good.
>
> I then ran the SEFI test.  The code here was 538.  Again I ran the test
> twice with the same results.
>
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red    200k and change
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Weinrich" <stevwein@swbell.net>
>
> > It also helps if you identify your car.
> >
> > We ain't that psychic.
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