[Shotimes] WAY OT- TCCA
Steve Weinrich
stevwein@swbell.net
Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:30:47 -0500
How about you guys just send this to each other and don't sent it to the
mailing list anymore.....
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "sho2go" <srfdude@cox.net>
To: "Bob and Anonda" <bobnanonda@cox.net>; "Midwest SHO Specialists"
<SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WAY OT- TCCA
> I'm a little puzzled why you folks are flaming each other regarding
another
> board? How about taking it somewhere else. We got enough of our own
> problems here ;-) but not sure if you think we are going to rush over to
> join the TCCA after seeing all this crap?
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob and Anonda" <bobnanonda@cox.net>
> To: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>; "Ron Porter"
> <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'Paul Nimz'" <niks@dlogue.net>;
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WAY OT- TCCA
>
>
> > So to get this straight, TCCA members should go to SHOforum to get your
> mods
> > list? Maybe you did put it there, I don't go there often so I have not
> > checked, but it was asked for on the TCCA.
> >
> > The downward spiral thing is bullshit. There are many more successful
> meets
> > now than ever, and our first annual is this year. Maybe the content is
> not
> > what you're looking for, but that's an individual opinion. Not every
list
> > is going to satisfy everyone. Heck, I find this one boring as hell,
> although
> > it is the first place I would come for info on my 89, provided Kirk or
> Fred
> > did not have an answer.
> >
> > The V8 list is entertaining, and there's really not a lot of available
> > subjects car related for the Gen 3's. Everything has pretty much been
> > covered at one point or another. As the cars get older and different
> > maintenance issues come up, I expect the list will take a turn more
> towards
> > the content of this list.
> >
> > As far as TCCA bashing, it's been done by you in the past "Burn down the
> > TCCA"? So that's what I base my opinions on. I know, it was said
because
> > you got banned or something, but that tag line was in your sig on many
> > forums even after the ban was lifted. You took out your frustrations
with
> > an individual on a whole club.
> >
> > Anyhow, I suppose this discussion could go on for weeks. Most SHO
people
> do
> > not find what they need on the TCCA, and that's what I'm looking to
> change.
> > There has been a regular influx of registrations from the SHOforum, as
> well
> > as the V8 list. We are headed in the right direction already.
> >
> > As far as presenting a challenge to you, and "dumbfounfing" the members,
> the
> > point is to present the information in a manner that the general public
> can
> > use. In example, I put a Diablo Chip in a customer's car last week.
All
> > most people want to know is how it will change the car in terms of
> throttle
> > response, acceleration, top speed, etc. Only the true gearheads will
want
> > to know every last spec of the fuel and ignition tables, etc. I feel
that
> > "dumbfounding" posts are made to make the poster sound that much more
> > intelligent, all the while confusing the members. Needless, IMO.
> >
> > Well, there's my biased viewpoint, like it or not. : )
> >
> > My apologies to the list for going so OT.
> >
> > Bob Gervais
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
> > To: "Bob and Anonda" <bobnanonda@cox.net>; "Ron Porter"
> > <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'Paul Nimz'" <niks@dlogue.net>;
> > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:07 PM
> > Subject: [Shotimes] WAY OT- TCCA
> >
> >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > I didn't mean to come off as cocky. In fact that same night I listed
> all
> > of
> > > my mods in the "bragging rights" post on SHOforum. After doing so
much,
> > > it's hard to remember a lot of the smaller things. I'm not even sure
> the
> > > list on SHOforum is complete.
> > >
> > > I posted in your Super Vulc post and found that most were less then
> > > interested. It seems that people actually don't want to move beyond
> > intakes
> > > and exhausts. My car is fast because of what I have and I will answer
> > > anyone that wants to know what I have on it. I am not the type of
> person
> > > that walks around and says that there car is "stock" when asked what
> they
> > > did to make it fast. No one learns that way.
> > >
> > > On the same token, I don't get any challenge from TCCA. It's no fun
> when
> > > it's one person making all the technical posts and then when you do
make
> a
> > > technical post everyone is dumbfounded and confused and no one
replies.
> > >
> > > This isn't TCCA bashing, rather it's just the TCCA. It's the truth.
I
> > > don't hate anyone on that forum or look down on it, which is the
> > assumption
> > > you seem to have made. I made a lot of friends there back in the old
> > days,
> > > but the content has gone from bad to worse.
> > >
> > > Email me something I can do to help you, tech articles, posting
> questions,
> > > stirring up new topics, etc, and I'm happy to help, but until I see
that
> > > there is some kind of knowledge being gained I will continue to be a
SHO
> > > Forum/ SHO times list/ SHOcago junky and stand by what I said.
> > >
> > > Mike Kopstain
> > > Midwest SHO Specialists
> > > 827 North Chestnut Avenue
> > > Arlington Heights, IL 60004
> > > www.MidwestSHO.com
> > > Sales@midwestsho.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob and Anonda" <bobnanonda@cox.net>
> > > To: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>; "Ron Porter"
> > > <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'Paul Nimz'" <niks@dlogue.net>;
> > > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:34 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT- Looking for Taurus SLO dlist
> > >
> > >
> > > > I agree it gets frustrating at times, however the thread I started
on
> > > > building a SuperVulc was not commented on by many of the same people
> > that
> > > > complain about too many exhaust and intake questions. Lemme make it
> > > simple
> > > > of whom I mean, you, Mike. Your SLO runs great from what you say,
but
> > you
> > > > either will not, or cannot, discuss the mods you have done to make
it
> > run
> > > > quickly. I'm referring to the SLO vs. SHO post. You said you kept
up
> > and
> > > > even pulled on a SHO, albeit one that was running poorly, but then
> > "could
> > > > not remember" what mods you had done.
> > > >
> > > > Weird. I'm 35 and I can remember everything I've done to my rides
> over
> > > the
> > > > years.
> > > >
> > > > To sum up, I like ya Mike, but this "exhaust/intake" thing will only
> > stop
> > > if
> > > > the experienced people speak up about what they've done, and what
it's
> > > > accomplished.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Gervais
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
> > > > To: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'Paul Nimz'"
> > <niks@dlogue.net>;
> > > > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:09 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT- Looking for Taurus SLO dlist
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Gonna have to go with Ron on this one... There isn't much
technical
> > > > advice
> > > > > being tossed around over there, with the exception of Mr Nimz, Bob
> > > > Gervais,
> > > > > and some others. Unfortunetly it's not even a good place for kids
> to
> > > > begin
> > > > > to learn about cars as it appears to be the blind leading the
blind.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone for an intake or an exhaust question?! :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Kopstain
> > > > > Midwest SHO Specialists
> > > > > 827 North Chestnut Avenue
> > > > > Arlington Heights, IL 60004
> > > > > www.MidwestSHO.com
> > > > > Sales@midwestsho.com
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > > > > To: "'Paul Nimz'" <niks@dlogue.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:38 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT- Looking for Taurus SLO dlist
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > At least 3 out of 4 posts are about the cars, not the other way
> > > around!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ron Porter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > > > On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:43 AM
> > > > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT- Looking for Taurus SLO dlist
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh I don't know, there is plenty on this list too.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul Nimz
> > > > > > '97 TR
> > > > > > '93 EG mtx
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > > > > > To: "'Kevin & Cheryl Airth'" <clubairth@peoplepc.com>; "'Roush,
> > > Norman'"
> > > > > > <norman.roush@hp.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:40 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT- Looking for Taurus SLO dlist
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > He should get to the actual forum with the link below, but
> here's
> > > the
> > > > > > exact
> > > > > > > one:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.tauruscarclub.com/forum/index.php
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Warning; If he is over 21, he will feel like a "grandpa" on
that
> > > > list!!
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > only thing that rivals the V8 SHO listserv for juvenile
behavior
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > > TCCA
> > > > > > > Forum.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ron Porter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kevin & Cheryl Airth
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:13 PM
> > > > > > > To: Roush, Norman; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT- Looking for Taurus SLO dlist
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Norman:
> > > > > > > Try this:
> > > > > > > http://www.tauruscarclub.com/forum/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My neighbor has a 93 Taurus SLO and is looking for some
> upgrade
> > > > help.
> > > > > > > IIRC, there's a dlist for SLO owners that might be helpful.
If
> > any
> > > of
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > know it can you send it to me off-line?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Norman
> > > > > > > > 95 ATX
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