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ianf@eden.rutgers.edu
ianf@eden.rutgers.edu
Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:13:08 -0500 (EST)
> OK, to be fair... The Maxima uses Nissan's ubiquotous VG30DE
engine. Many
> more of these engines were produced than Yamaha V6's for the SHO.
Think of
> the Nissan engine as the small block Chevy of Japan. There are more
> performance parts from more manufacturers for the Nissan than the SHO,
> hence, the lower price for performance parts. Also, the Nissan
engine, from
> the factory, is not as highly tuned as the SHO engine, so the more
basic
> bolt-on mods will do more to wake the engine up than it does with the
SHO.
> As far as maintenance goes... Mechanically, the SHO's Yamaha is
equal to
> the Max's engine, but whereas the Max gets NipponDenso electrics, the
SHO is
> sadly saddled with Ford electrics. I have seen very few actual
mechanical
> failures of the SHO engine itself, but the majority are electrical
failures.
> Like the crank sensor, the cam sensor, the IRCM, and the DIS module.
so you are esentially supporting what I am saying. The Maxima has more
potential and is a better base to start with for mods or just plain
reliability. I classify the SHO's water pump and T-stat failures, rod
bearing maintenance issues, etc as mechanical failures. Yeah, some of
it is related to how well the owner cares for the car, but Nissan can
build a motor that any idiot can own and not maintain yet they won't
have problems with the car ever.
> As far as handling goes... The SHO is the best handling 4-door sedan
out of
> Detroit, but falls a little short of those from Japan, and far short
of
> those from Germany. My wife's 325i handles leagues better than my
SHO, and
> has a far more compliant ride.
>
> One thing that gives the Max a feeling of more room, is the slimmer
front
> seat backs, and the slimmer rear door trim. The door trim on the
Maxima
> does not intrude as much as in the Taurus. I could cross my legs in
the
> Max, but not in the Taurus, as my knees hit the door trim. If the
Taurus
> didn't have intrusive door trim, I could comfortably cross my legs in
the
> SHO as well. Now, Ian, get in the front seat of a Max, adjust them
where
> you fit comfortably, then try to get in the back seat of a Max. Go to
> carpoint.com, and compare the interior specs of both the Taurus and
the Max.
> The Taurus has 3 more inches of rear seat legroom than the Max (37.7
vs
> 34.3), 1.5 inches more shoulder room (57.6 vs. 56.2), an inch less
hip room
> (54.8 vs. 55.9), and about the same headroom (37.6 vs 37.4). This was
> comparing a 95 SHO and a 95 Max SE. The Max just does a better job of
> providing the "look" and "feel" of more room in the back.
I know what I have experienced. I have sat in every seat of a 4th and
5th gen maxima and found them to be a lot roomier. yes, the slimmer
seat backs and door panels help a TON (I am always banging my knee into
the door panel of my SHO when I drive and it really annoys me). I am
not going to break out a tape measure and measure the headroom and leg
room. :)
Ditto on soul. Everyone has a different opinion of soul, but I have a
feeling that people equate noise (hearing the engine, etc) to soul. If
you want to hear the engine on any car, add a simple intake with a cone
filter. I think that my friend Steve's 97 SE with full suspension,
intake, exhaust, brakes, wheels, tires, etc has a LOT of soul.
Ian