[Shotimes] 94 Moonlight Blue MTX FS

Randy Smith RandyMTU98@comcast.net
Fri, 09 May 2003 14:33:45 -0400 

As I mentioned privately, I didn't say 3200 or bust.  I said 3200 OBO.  
If someone were interested in it, they'd make me and offer and I'd 
consider it.  That's what "or best offer" stands for.

This is also my last post to the subject.  I thought we were having a 
nice discussion about it in private, but here we are in public again...

Randy

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul L Fisher <sho@paul-fisher.com>
Date: Friday, May 9, 2003 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 94 Moonlight Blue MTX FS

> OK..... This is my last post on this thread. What Randy is saying 
> is "If
> someone out there won't pay me $3200 for it, I'm going to trade it 
> in at the
> dealer for $1500" instead of asking a reasonable price somewhere 
> between the
> two and pocketing some extra money. I understand the whole asking 
> pricething but let's not be silly! It's a 9 year old car with 
> 168,000 miles on it
> and a manual transmission and some stuff that needs fixing!
> 
> Paul L Fisher
> '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 172K Build date 11/18/1992
> - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-
> back, Holley
> 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-
> PlusStainless Steel Y-pipe, '96 brake upgrade, Proportioning valve 
> plugs, Delrin
> sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil Synthetic 
> ATF.
> SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> 
> Get $5 free from Paypal! 
> https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dembik William" <billyho38@hotmail.com>
> To: <RandyMTU98@comcast.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 1:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 94 Moonlight Blue MTX FS
> 
> 
> > Randy,
> >     I agree with ya, My mtx 95' moonlight blue SHO has 115,000 
> on her and
> > the book value is low on her too.  Some people think its a good 
> asking> price, others may not. Ask what you think is a right price 
> and by the
> sounds
> > of it, your in the ballpark.  Hell i got offered $3650 for my 
> car and its
> > plan stock, which to some people may seem obsurdly high. But 
> people pay
> for
> > what they want. And try to find a nicer, faster, sportier car 
> for the
> loot!
> > You can't. Just my opinion.
> >
> > --Will
> >
> > >From: Randy Smith <RandyMTU98@comcast.net>
> > >To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > >Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 94 Moonlight Blue MTX FS
> > >Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 13:22:32 -0400
> > >
> > >Well, knowing SHO's I'm confident that the car will be back in top
> > >condition with little money and a little time.  Add to that the 
> 100%> >known history, fresh paint over much of the car, probably 2-
> 2500 worth
> > >of bolt on performance parts (including tokico struts which I now
> > >understand to be out of production indefinitely)
> > >
> > >Take a look at other cars that sell for 1500-2500 and I think 
> what the
> > >others have said about these guides not fitting performance 
> cars is
> > >very true.
> > >
> > >Nobody likes being publicly told they are out of their minds with
> > >regard to the price of something for sale.  Don't want it?  
> Don't buy
> > >it.  Think I really am clueless?  Let me know privately rather than
> > >trying to embarass me on the list.
> > >
> > >At any rate, that's how I justify the 800 over KBB.  I also 
> went on
> > >Traderonline and looked at what is available around the country 
> right> >now.
> > >
> > >With the responses I've seen here regarding price, I'm 
> confident my
> > >price is in the ballpark.  I also don't want to start a fight, 
> but I
> > >just think it would be more appropriate to make these types of
> > >discussions private.
> > >
> > >Peace.
> > >
> > >Randy
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Paul L Fisher <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> > >Date: Friday, May 9, 2003 12:52 pm
> > >Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 94 Moonlight Blue MTX FS
> > >
> > > > I used '94 Ford, Taurus, SHO, put in 168000 miles, dark blue,
> > > > sell, didn't
> > > > click on any options, since it is stripped and clicked on
> > > > 'outstanding' even
> > > > though it barely fits the 'average' category. $964 trade-in, 
> $1679> > > private,$2894 dealer.
> > > >
> > > > The poster himself said that KBB said $2400. I'm just wondering
> > > > how he
> > > > justifies $800 over KBB and almost double Edmunds. I'm not 
> trying> > > to start a
> > > > fight, just want to know the logic behind it.
> > > >
> > > > Paul L Fisher
> > > > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 172K Build date 
> 11/18/1992> > > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, 
> Dynomax cat-
> > > > back, Holley
> > > > 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, 
> Performance-
> > > > PlusStainless Steel Y-pipe, '96 brake upgrade, Proportioning 
> valve> > > plugs, Delrin
> > > > sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil 
> Synthetic> > > ATF.
> > > > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > > > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > > > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> > > >
> > > > Get $5 free from Paypal!
> > > > https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > > > To: "'shotimes'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 11:31 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 94 Moonlight Blue MTX FS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I agree with Mark, the price guides are not valid for 
> SHOs. Gen
> > > > 3s, the
> > > > > guides are priced far above what they actually sell for. OTOH,
> > > > low-mileage
> > > > > creampuff Gen 1s are worth way over the book.....except to 
> insurance> > > > companies.
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul, I don't know where you got your Edmunds prices, but 
> I get:
> > > > >
> > > > > $1,534 (trade-in) $2,179 (private party) and $3,254 
> (dealer retail)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > http://www.edmunds.com/used/1994/ford/taurus/11018/options.html?
> > >tid=edmunds.
> > > > > u.tmvmipmake.tmvpricetable..1.Ford*
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron Porter
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [shotimes-
> admin@autox.team.net]> > > > On Behalf Of Mark Nunnally
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:16 PM
> > > > > To: shotimes
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 94 Moonlight Blue MTX FS
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > OK. www.edmunds.com says this car in OUTSTANDING 
> condition is
> > > > $1679. Why
> > > > > is
> > > > > > it worth double that?
> > > > >
> > > > >     That seems pretty low to me.  For the condition of the 
> car,> > > being a
> > > > > fairly rare blue gen MTX, with the extra parts and the 
> bolt-ons,
> > > > I sure
> > > > > don't think his asking price is out of line.
> > > > >
> > > > > FWIW I don't put any stock into KBB or edmonds with SHO's, 
> for an
> > > > enthusiast
> > > > > type car, those numbers dont' mean much to me.  It's worth 
> whatever> > > somebody
> > > > > is willing to pay, that may be higher or lower!
> > > > >
> > > > > mark
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