[Shotimes] 11.87 second SHO...

[Ron Porter]

?????????

Please explain WTF you just wrote, please!!

Ron Porter 

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From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Timothy Tyner
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:44 PM
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If there have not  (there was but), the first will I be (but I won't).  Get
it?  Think not I do.

Toolman

-------Original Message-------

From: Ron Porter
Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 13:02:38
To: dmall@mwonline.net; shotimes@autox.team.net
Cc: 'SHO Tech'
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 11.87 second SHO...

I was bringing up the fact that saying DOHC and Four-Cam for a V6 is
redundant.

One reason I copied the Tech List is that I don not believe there are, nor
have ever been, any n/a SHOs with over 300 crank HP. Although if I'm wrong,
there's folks out there with better memories than I!!

Ron Porter 

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On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:36 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Cc: SHO Tech
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 11.87 second SHO...


Ron,

What's wrong with "Four Cam-Four Valve DOHC" SHO Motor!!" ? 
That is what they are, we just don't say it that way much.

There are cars out there pushing those type of numbers with 
blowers, and I think there have been documented cars with 
300+ hp without a power adder/blower/NOS/turbo.

Anyone have any facts on what Ted ever got accomplished with 
his car?

About the street rod, there is an old Ford in the Peoria 
area that has a SHO driveline, but I never heard any claims 
for power for it, it was made for a handicapped person I 
believe with ramp and room for his wheelchair in the drivers 
position.

ONe of these days I am going to catch that car at a local 
show and get some pictures and a ride.

I can look past some of the BS and filter out the good 
stuff. Got to do that a lot in life. If I lost total faith 
in everyone or everything that ever let me down, it would be 
a lot less interesting life for sure. :)

Don Mallinson

Ron Porter wrote:
> Yeah, the way Del wrote was more like what you expect from a mainstream
car
> mag that has to sell ad space (can anyone say "Motor Trend"??). I feel the
> SHO Club magazine is fine in this regard, but I do expect a club magazine
to
> give owners the straight scoop and not the vendor's BS. It is funny
reading
> back through some of the old ads and the bogus claims.
> 
> Actually, there WERE discussions after the "low 12s, 11.87 best" claim
came
> out, and I knew it was absolute BS. We did discuss it on the list and in
> Dallas the next year, IIRC.
> 
> I wasn't saying that I didn't like his wheels (actually I do), or that all
> the parts he discussed are bogus (Pro-M, Koni and Centerforce are fine).
> It's just that once I lose the trust of an author due to bogus claims, I
> don't believe anything else I read from that person. He went over-the-top
on
> his descriptions.
> 
> Now......here's another one for the barf bag!!!!! It is the vendor,
> specifically Bob Walter at Logicams. SHO Registry, Volume 4 Number 1,
Spring
> 1994, on Page 7 (the Logicams full-page ad).
> 
> "Ted Breaux's 1989 "SHO" 3.0 litre DOHC Four Cam V-6 Now Making 325 HP On
> The Dyno Documented"
> 
> "A 1934 Ford Phaeton With A V-6 Yamaha Four Cam-Four Valve DOHC Engine
> Making 450 HP...With A Mustang "T"-5-Speed Tranny And A Jaguar Third
Member"
> 
> No mention of either of these cars with blowers. Sorry, can't buy either
one
> of these, particularly 450 HP from a "Four Cam-Four Valve DOHC" SHO
Motor!!
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