[Shotimes] headers

[Paul Nimz]

I will find out tomorrow what the 3.99 gears do to my 1/4 times.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: "'Midwest SHO Specialists'" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>; "'van Oss'"
<vanOss@centurytel.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] headers


> At the risk of a simplistic answer, any SHO that sees any street duty has
> enough power over 6K, and would benefit from more power below 5K.
> Sacrificing torque under 5K to get more top end is useless and
> counterproductive......unless you like to only run the car at the Silver
> State Classic. A fatter midrange would not only make the car feel quicker,
> it will also quarter-mile much better.
>
> FWIW, after a bunch of research, I put a chip in my 911 whose only mission
> in life was to help the torque between 1-4K. The car is a lot more
> streetable, plus it can run 13.98 at 102 in stock trim even though it's
> heavier as a cabriolet, with me driving (who is no lightweight), fore a
car
> that was only rated mid 14s at best.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Midwest SHO Specialists
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 2:37 PM
> To: van Oss; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] headers
>
>
> One of the cars we built this winter has headers on it.  It's a 3.2
> conversion with 3.0 cams and Shawn Paisley's old headers.  The low end
> torque is noticably low.  From a stop, if you accelerate normally, at
about
> 3000 rpms the car feels like you pushed the pedal down further.  It just
> kind of hops forward.  I have been tinkering with the idea of making them,
> but after putting them in, I'm not sure this is something the home
mechanic
> can do.  It's a very labor intensive job, and even when you do it right,
you
> still have to be a contortionist to get the front header on.
>
> The first time you have to remove your oil pan, you will start crying like
a
> child.
>
> Definetly something worthwhile, but not sure I would spend $500 or more on
a
> set.
>
> The car in question is a road track car, so the headers fit the
application
> very well.
>
> Mike Kopstain
> Midwest SHO Specialists
> 827 North Chestnut Avenue
> Arlington Heights, IL 60004
> www.MidwestSHO.com
> Sales@midwestsho.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 7:56 AM
> Subject: [Shotimes] headers
>
>
> > IIRC, years ago Ted Breaux had a pair of exhaust headers made, but the
> > tubing was too large so he ended up removing them.  I remember reading
> later
> > on the list, perhaps from Ted, that 1-5/8" ID tubing would be ideal for
> > headers on a normally aspirated SHO.
> >
> > What's the consensus, do headers make sense on a NA SHO?  Or, looked at
> the
> > other way, what would the price have to get down to for headers to be a
> > worthwhile mod?
> >
> > Joseph van Oss
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