[Shotimes] Re: OT- (computer stuf)
Carl Prochilo
gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org
Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:03:54 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Reactive in the case of brand new virus, proactive in case of virus for
which a def was created.
Look, you wanna run without an AV program, that's your business, but don't
go telling others not to.
--
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
1992 Ultra Red Crimson
Paul Nimz said:
> Well you did say that AV products are reactive.....
>
> I would rather be proactive. Huh?
>
> Paul Nimz
> '97 TR
> '93 EG mtx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
> To: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dialnetwork.com>
> Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:35 AM
> Subject: Re: OT- (computer stuf)
>
>
>> Huh? Isn't that what I said? I don't see not running an antivirus
>> program as an option. NAV has a realtime protection mechanism.
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Carl Prochilo
>> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
>>
>> Paul Nimz said:
>> > Personally I would rather spend my time and money preventing virus
>> > problems
>> > than fixing them. Why rely on products that fix your sick computer if
> you
>> > can take measures and not become infected in the first place?
>> >
>> > Paul Nimz
>> > '97 TR
>> > '93 EG mtx
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
>> > To: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>
>> > Cc: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dialnetwork.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:49 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT (computer stuf)
>> >
>> >
>> >> Jim, Ron gave you a good way to look at this. NAV being owned by
>> >> Symantec has a very good support structure. That's what you really
> want
>> >> to look for. The whole virus world is reactive in nature and you
>> can't
>> >> really stop this stuff before it happens, but when it does, you want
>> >> someone there to code a def file so that you can protect your sytem.
> So
>> >> for all intents and purposes, these programs (McAfee, etc) to me are
>> >> fairly equal but are an absolute necessity in today's world.
>> >>
>> >> As for LINUX, I know a lot of people that swear by it and really no
>> one
>> >> that swears at it. But its use is going to limited in my view to
> server
>> >> based work at this point and not as a replacement for the Windows
>> >> client.
>> >> For instance, a buddy of mine has a LINUX box in his house that is
>> used
>> >> for file and web serving that he does virtually no maintenance to.
>> But
>> >> client apps are pretty much all written for Windoze because it is
>> >> ubiquitous.
>> >>
>> >> If you follow the type of approach I outlined earlier to protect your
>> >> PC,
>> >> that is a good model to insure no issues will befall you.
>> >> --
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Carl Prochilo
>> >> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
>> >>
>> >> James White said:
>> >> > I have always thought that anything MicroSoft was all anchor and
>> >> bloat!
>> >> >
>> >> > The old Atari did a lot with only 1/100 of the memory and wabout
>> >> 1/1000
>> > of
>> >> > the disk storage space. Old dos (not even Windows) was sorta' OK.
>> >> >
>> >> > Was happy with non-Windows dos, but they fixed what wasn't
>> broken...
>> >> >
>> >> > Is Linux any better?
>> >> >
>> >> > Or maybe they "fixed" that too?
>> >> >
>> >> > regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dialnetwork.com>
>> >> > To: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>; "Midwest SHO
>> >> > Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
>> >> > Cc: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:37 AM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT (computer stuf)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> NA isn't anything but an anchor and bloat. IMHO
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Paul Nimz
>> >> >> '97 TR
>> >> >> '93 EG mtx
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
>> >> >> To: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
>> >> >> Cc: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 12:39 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT (computer stuf)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Yes, those are good, but you also need something like Norton
>> > Antivirus
>> >> >> > too. What I normally have on my machines are:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hardware Router (Linksys, Netgear, etc)
>> >> >> > Norton Antivirus
>> >> >> > Zone Alarm Pro (actually Zone Labs Integrity Client)
>> >> >> > Adaware
>> >> >> > Spybot
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > These together seem reasonably good at securing a machine.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >> > Carl Prochilo
>> >> >> > 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Midwest SHO Specialists said:
>> >> >> > > I run Ad Aware and Zone alarm. Neither stop spam email, but
> they
>> > do
>> >> >> block
>> >> >> > > pop ups.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > ~ Mike
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> > > From: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>
>> >> >> > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> >> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:07 PM
>> >> >> > > Subject: [Shotimes] OT (computer stuf)
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >> Didn't think that this was Spam..., but speaking of Spam, I
>> got
>> >> a
>> >> >> > >> program
>> >> >> > >> from a friend/customer called SpyBot. Think that it prevents
>> >> >> > >> information
>> >> >> > > on
>> >> >> > >> me from being sent out about me, and this will, maybe, reduce
>> >> the
>> >> > Spam.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Is it worth the time to run it?
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> And time is what I don't have. The '95MTX SHO still has the
>> >> idle
>> >> >> > >> problem.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> And this crap-top still won't fax. I want to reformat the
> whole
>> >> > thing,
>> >> >> > > but
>> >> >> > >> want to keep the saved email from this list and a several
>> >> hundred
>> >> > sent
>> >> >> > >> faxes, from when the fax program worked, but I haven't a clue
> as
>> >> >> how
>> >> > to
>> >> >> > >> do
>> >> >> > >> that and don't have the time to learn how. Would OS/2 be
>> >> better?
>> >> > How
>> >> >> > > about
>> >> >> > >> Linux?
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Working a 80 hour week, just to keep this rotten job...
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
>> >> >> > >> Valparaiso, Indiana
>> >> >> > >> '93 5 SPEED 282k few mods
>> >> >> > >> '95 5 SPEED 265k lots of mods
>> >> >> > >> "double clutch" it's good for both you and your SHO
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> > >> From: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
>> >> >> > >> To: "V6&V8SHO SHOCAGO" <slightlyhigheroutput@hotmail.com>;
>> >> >> > >> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> >> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:11 PM
>> >> >> > >> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHOFAST Performance Gen 2 ATX
>> >> Transmission
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > Welcome to the list Jon... It's best to stick around and
>> post
>> >> > awhile
>> >> >> > >> before
>> >> >> > >> > you start spamming.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > :-)
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > ~ Mike
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Midwest SHO
>> >> >> > >> > www.midwestsho.com
>> >> >> > >> > Sales@Midwestsho.com
>> >> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> > >> > From: "V6&V8SHO SHOCAGO" <slightlyhigheroutput@hotmail.com>
>> >> >> > >> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> >> >> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:24 PM
>> >> >> > >> > Subject: [Shotimes] SHOFAST Performance Gen 2 ATX
> Transmission
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > > Hello! Newbie to the shotimes list. Name is Jon
>> > Martinucci,
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> > >> own
>> >> >> > > a
>> >> >> > >> 93
>> >> >> > >> > > Black metallic ATX SHO. Current Staff member of SHOCAGO,
> and
>> >> a
>> >> >> > >> member
>> >> >> > >> with
>> >> >> > >> > > SHOFORUM.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > I want to express my experiance to everyone about SHOFAST
>> >> >> > >> PERFORMANCE.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > I got my car from SHOFAST 3 days ago with their built up
> Gen
>> >> 2
>> >> > ATX
>> >> >> > >> > > transmission and I must say it is the best trans my car
>> has
>> >> >> ever
>> >> >> > >> seen.
>> >> >> > >> The
>> >> >> > >> > > 2-3 shift is as firm as the 1-2. The firmness is solid
>> and
>> > dead
>> >> > on
>> >> >> > > every
>> >> >> > >> > > time. Feels like im getting pushed in the bumper every
>> 2-3
>> >> >> shift.
>> >> >> > >> The
>> >> >> > >> > drive
>> >> >> > >> > > back from Cincy to Chicago was great and damn does their
>> >> >> SHOFAST
>> >> >> > > torque
>> >> >> > >> > > convertor have great lockup.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > The cost is very competitive with other performance
>> >> >> transmissions
>> >> >> > > which
>> >> >> > >> is
>> >> >> > >> > > why I choose to go with them. And the time and service
>> was
>> >> >> great.
>> >> >> > > Brad
>> >> >> > >> > the
>> >> >> > >> > > owner of SHOFAST promised the car to be finished within a
>> >> week
>> >> > and
>> >> >> > >> it
>> >> >> > >> was
>> >> >> > >> > > done in a week.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > I am also in the works of setting up a date to do full
>> >> >> suspension
>> >> >> > >> upgrade
>> >> >> > >> > > along with bigger brakes at SHOFAST for the convention.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > With all the troubles with SHOSHOP its good to see a
>> vendor
>> >> on
>> >> > the
>> >> >> > > right
>> >> >> > >> > > track.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > Not to many people know about SHOFAST and niether did I
> till
>> >> I
>> >> >> heard
>> >> >> > >> about
>> >> >> > >> > > them from a freind. They offer high quality of service
>> and
> I
>> >> > would
>> >> >> > > refer
>> >> >> > >> > > others to them due to my excellent experiance.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > I believe there website is
>> >> http://www.shofastperformance.com/
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > End
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > Jon Martinucci
>> >> >> > >> > > SHOCAGO.com STAFF
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >
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