[Shotimes] OT- (computer stuf)
Paul Nimz
niks@dialnetwork.com
Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:12:01 -0600
I'm telling you what I do and what I think of the AV industry. I am not
telling anyone what to do. I will leave that up to you and Ron.
Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
To: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dialnetwork.com>
Cc: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>; "`V6 SHOtimes"
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: OT- (computer stuf)
> Reactive in the case of brand new virus, proactive in case of virus for
> which a def was created.
>
> Look, you wanna run without an AV program, that's your business, but don't
> go telling others not to.
> --
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
>
> Paul Nimz said:
> > Well you did say that AV products are reactive.....
> >
> > I would rather be proactive. Huh?
> >
> > Paul Nimz
> > '97 TR
> > '93 EG mtx
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
> > To: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dialnetwork.com>
> > Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: OT- (computer stuf)
> >
> >
> >> Huh? Isn't that what I said? I don't see not running an antivirus
> >> program as an option. NAV has a realtime protection mechanism.
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Carl Prochilo
> >> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
> >>
> >> Paul Nimz said:
> >> > Personally I would rather spend my time and money preventing virus
> >> > problems
> >> > than fixing them. Why rely on products that fix your sick computer
if
> > you
> >> > can take measures and not become infected in the first place?
> >> >
> >> > Paul Nimz
> >> > '97 TR
> >> > '93 EG mtx
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
> >> > To: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>
> >> > Cc: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dialnetwork.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:49 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT (computer stuf)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Jim, Ron gave you a good way to look at this. NAV being owned by
> >> >> Symantec has a very good support structure. That's what you really
> > want
> >> >> to look for. The whole virus world is reactive in nature and you
> >> can't
> >> >> really stop this stuff before it happens, but when it does, you want
> >> >> someone there to code a def file so that you can protect your sytem.
> > So
> >> >> for all intents and purposes, these programs (McAfee, etc) to me are
> >> >> fairly equal but are an absolute necessity in today's world.
> >> >>
> >> >> As for LINUX, I know a lot of people that swear by it and really no
> >> one
> >> >> that swears at it. But its use is going to limited in my view to
> > server
> >> >> based work at this point and not as a replacement for the Windows
> >> >> client.
> >> >> For instance, a buddy of mine has a LINUX box in his house that is
> >> used
> >> >> for file and web serving that he does virtually no maintenance to.
> >> But
> >> >> client apps are pretty much all written for Windoze because it is
> >> >> ubiquitous.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you follow the type of approach I outlined earlier to protect
your
> >> >> PC,
> >> >> that is a good model to insure no issues will befall you.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Carl Prochilo
> >> >> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
> >> >>
> >> >> James White said:
> >> >> > I have always thought that anything MicroSoft was all anchor and
> >> >> bloat!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The old Atari did a lot with only 1/100 of the memory and wabout
> >> >> 1/1000
> >> > of
> >> >> > the disk storage space. Old dos (not even Windows) was sorta' OK.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Was happy with non-Windows dos, but they fixed what wasn't
> >> broken...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Is Linux any better?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Or maybe they "fixed" that too?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dialnetwork.com>
> >> >> > To: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>; "Midwest SHO
> >> >> > Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
> >> >> > Cc: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:37 AM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT (computer stuf)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> NA isn't anything but an anchor and bloat. IMHO
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Paul Nimz
> >> >> >> '97 TR
> >> >> >> '93 EG mtx
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
> >> >> >> To: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
> >> >> >> Cc: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 12:39 PM
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT (computer stuf)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Yes, those are good, but you also need something like Norton
> >> > Antivirus
> >> >> >> > too. What I normally have on my machines are:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Hardware Router (Linksys, Netgear, etc)
> >> >> >> > Norton Antivirus
> >> >> >> > Zone Alarm Pro (actually Zone Labs Integrity Client)
> >> >> >> > Adaware
> >> >> >> > Spybot
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > These together seem reasonably good at securing a machine.
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Cheers,
> >> >> >> > Carl Prochilo
> >> >> >> > 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Midwest SHO Specialists said:
> >> >> >> > > I run Ad Aware and Zone alarm. Neither stop spam email, but
> > they
> >> > do
> >> >> >> block
> >> >> >> > > pop ups.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > ~ Mike
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> > > From: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>
> >> >> >> > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >> >> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:07 PM
> >> >> >> > > Subject: [Shotimes] OT (computer stuf)
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> Didn't think that this was Spam..., but speaking of Spam, I
> >> got
> >> >> a
> >> >> >> > >> program
> >> >> >> > >> from a friend/customer called SpyBot. Think that it
prevents
> >> >> >> > >> information
> >> >> >> > > on
> >> >> >> > >> me from being sent out about me, and this will, maybe,
reduce
> >> >> the
> >> >> > Spam.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> Is it worth the time to run it?
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> And time is what I don't have. The '95MTX SHO still has the
> >> >> idle
> >> >> >> > >> problem.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> And this crap-top still won't fax. I want to reformat the
> > whole
> >> >> > thing,
> >> >> >> > > but
> >> >> >> > >> want to keep the saved email from this list and a several
> >> >> hundred
> >> >> > sent
> >> >> >> > >> faxes, from when the fax program worked, but I haven't a
clue
> > as
> >> >> >> how
> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > >> do
> >> >> >> > >> that and don't have the time to learn how. Would OS/2 be
> >> >> better?
> >> >> > How
> >> >> >> > > about
> >> >> >> > >> Linux?
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> Working a 80 hour week, just to keep this rotten job...
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
> >> >> >> > >> Valparaiso, Indiana
> >> >> >> > >> '93 5 SPEED 282k few mods
> >> >> >> > >> '95 5 SPEED 265k lots of mods
> >> >> >> > >> "double clutch" it's good for both you and your SHO
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> > >> From: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
> >> >> >> > >> To: "V6&V8SHO SHOCAGO" <slightlyhigheroutput@hotmail.com>;
> >> >> >> > >> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >> >> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:11 PM
> >> >> >> > >> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHOFAST Performance Gen 2 ATX
> >> >> Transmission
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> > Welcome to the list Jon... It's best to stick around and
> >> post
> >> >> > awhile
> >> >> >> > >> before
> >> >> >> > >> > you start spamming.
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > :-)
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > ~ Mike
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > Midwest SHO
> >> >> >> > >> > www.midwestsho.com
> >> >> >> > >> > Sales@Midwestsho.com
> >> >> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> > >> > From: "V6&V8SHO SHOCAGO"
<slightlyhigheroutput@hotmail.com>
> >> >> >> > >> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >> >> >> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:24 PM
> >> >> >> > >> > Subject: [Shotimes] SHOFAST Performance Gen 2 ATX
> > Transmission
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > > Hello! Newbie to the shotimes list. Name is Jon
> >> > Martinucci,
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> > >> own
> >> >> >> > > a
> >> >> >> > >> 93
> >> >> >> > >> > > Black metallic ATX SHO. Current Staff member of SHOCAGO,
> > and
> >> >> a
> >> >> >> > >> member
> >> >> >> > >> with
> >> >> >> > >> > > SHOFORUM.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > I want to express my experiance to everyone about
SHOFAST
> >> >> >> > >> PERFORMANCE.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > I got my car from SHOFAST 3 days ago with their built up
> > Gen
> >> >> 2
> >> >> > ATX
> >> >> >> > >> > > transmission and I must say it is the best trans my car
> >> has
> >> >> >> ever
> >> >> >> > >> seen.
> >> >> >> > >> The
> >> >> >> > >> > > 2-3 shift is as firm as the 1-2. The firmness is solid
> >> and
> >> > dead
> >> >> > on
> >> >> >> > > every
> >> >> >> > >> > > time. Feels like im getting pushed in the bumper every
> >> 2-3
> >> >> >> shift.
> >> >> >> > >> The
> >> >> >> > >> > drive
> >> >> >> > >> > > back from Cincy to Chicago was great and damn does their
> >> >> >> SHOFAST
> >> >> >> > > torque
> >> >> >> > >> > > convertor have great lockup.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > The cost is very competitive with other performance
> >> >> >> transmissions
> >> >> >> > > which
> >> >> >> > >> is
> >> >> >> > >> > > why I choose to go with them. And the time and service
> >> was
> >> >> >> great.
> >> >> >> > > Brad
> >> >> >> > >> > the
> >> >> >> > >> > > owner of SHOFAST promised the car to be finished within
a
> >> >> week
> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > >> it
> >> >> >> > >> was
> >> >> >> > >> > > done in a week.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > I am also in the works of setting up a date to do full
> >> >> >> suspension
> >> >> >> > >> upgrade
> >> >> >> > >> > > along with bigger brakes at SHOFAST for the convention.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > With all the troubles with SHOSHOP its good to see a
> >> vendor
> >> >> on
> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > > right
> >> >> >> > >> > > track.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > Not to many people know about SHOFAST and niether did I
> > till
> >> >> I
> >> >> >> heard
> >> >> >> > >> about
> >> >> >> > >> > > them from a freind. They offer high quality of service
> >> and
> > I
> >> >> > would
> >> >> >> > > refer
> >> >> >> > >> > > others to them due to my excellent experiance.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > I believe there website is
> >> >> http://www.shofastperformance.com/
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > End
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > Jon Martinucci
> >> >> >> > >> > > SHOCAGO.com STAFF
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> > _________________________________________________________________
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