[Shotimes] Window tinting

[Al Fitz]

I totally agree with you Noah. My Son and I both have 89 silver SHOs and I
can't describe the look of disappointment I see on the cops faces when they
see it's me driving rather than my Son. They know I will not take their
"jack booted" tactics. It seems like every kid get asked if they can search
their cars and God help them if they say no. One of my boys got stopped for
"speeding" and refused a search of the car. They held him for 1 hour and 45
minutes until the dog showed up. Of course they didn't find anything and
they WOULDN'T give him a ticket for speeding. If he had received a ticket,
he would be able to take the case before a judge and those cops didn't want
to explain why they held him unconstitutionally against his will for almost
2 hours waiting for the dog.


Al Fitz
alfitz@alfitz.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Noah South III" <RaggTopp@comcast.net>
To: "SHOTimes-Mailing List" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Window tinting


> There are good and bad cops.  Depending on where you live, you might have
> more good than bad, or you might have more bad than good.  Round here, we
> have WAY more bad than good, but I've gotten used to it.  I got yelled at
> and threatened multiple times by a state boy BECAUSE I showed him my
doctors
> note for my tint.  Oh yeah, and he searched my car and broke shit inside.
> All because I showed him the doctors note and it pissed him off.
>
> It really depends who you are though.  If you're young or just young
> looking, you are GOING to get power tripped on by the cops.  Why pick on
> youngsters?  Because they're the easiest target, they're too young to know
> anything or any of the laws.  As of right now, I can think of MANY police
> stops that were blatantly illegal, but at the time I had no clue and was
> "afraid" of the cops.  Oh and if the cop is irate towards you do NOT, I
> repeat DO NOT tell him what the laws are.  You may know what the laws are,
> and he doesn't.  All that's going to do is make him REALLY pissy.  Put
> yourself in his position.  You gona' let some punk tell you how to do your
> job?  <G>
>
> -Noah South III
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donald Mallinson" <dmall@mwonline.net>
> To: "_SHOtimes" <Shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Window tinting
>
>
> > Al,
> >
> > I know it sometimes seems like all cops are bad, but as with
> > most things in life, I am sure most cops do their best to be
> > GOOD cops.  I have personally known quite a few of the
> > local, county and state police, only one of which came about
> > because of a "problem" thank goodness.  All of them were
> > just like you and me, they have a job to do and they just
> > want to be respected like anyone.  We have several police
> > SHO owners/enthusiasts that seem like normal people to me...
> >
> > As for ticking off the police if you carry the regs with
> > you, I already mentioned, it could happen, but one of our
> > first SHO fanatics, had limo tint on all windows and even
> > put the heated windshield from the Taurus in his SHO,
> > because it had a bit of tint.  He had bad eyes that were
> > light sensative and a prescription from his doctor for
> > tinted windows.
> >
> > He would get pulled over all the time, but after presenting
> > his "documentation", Cops genearally didn't bother him.
> >
> > I guess it didn't hurt that he was an ex-cop himself?  :)
> >
> > Still, if someone is getting hastled like the original guy
> > was, I would get the regs and have them handy and just
> > present it in a nice way.
> >
> > Still won't stop a bad cop from making trouble, but it would
> > help other times.
> >
> > Don Mallinson
> >
> > Al Fitz wrote:
> > > I don't know about that Don, it seems to me that the police do
whatever
> they
> > > want and only the courts can set them straight. By presenting the cop
> > > documentation at the stop would probably piss them off even more. You
> have
> > > to remember, in their minds, they are not always right but they're
NEVER
> > > wrong. Until cops have to answer for their actions, there is no
> incentive
> > > for them to follow the law.
> > >
> > > My son recently got a ticket from an 18 year veteran of the local PD
for
> > > willful reckless driving. Instead of paying the fine we went to court
> and
> > > the judge told the cop he should go back to the academy and learn the
> law
> > > and dismissed the complaint. Of course when my Son was stopped, the
cop
> was
> > > a total asshole and I'm sure he will be watching for my kid now.
> > >
> > >
> > > Al Fitz
> > > alfitz@alfitz.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Donald Mallinson" <dmall@mwonline.net>
> > > To: "SHOtimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 2:00 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Window tinting
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>That cop that made the out of state driver remove tint in
> > >>Nashville is flat out wrong.
> > >>
> > >>A state can't enforce a law that doesn't apply to another
> > >>state's driver!  Oh, I know, the cop was being a hard case
> > >>and there was probably little that the driver could do about
> > >>it.  And the driver would have won if taken to court.
> > >>
> > >>When a state cop pulled over my wife because of a minor
> > >>crack in a windshield in our MGB, I went to the state regs
> > >>and found that a cracked windshield is NOT illegal unless it
> > >>weakens the structure, or is in such a location and size
> > >>that it restricts sight.
> > >>
> > >>I copied that page and kept it with the car, doing something
> > >>like that if you have tint that is legal in your state
> > >>(along with a receipt from the tint company showing the % of
> > >>tint) would probably stop any future problems like this as
> > >>long as you hadn't already ticked off the cop.
> > >>
> > >>Don Mallinson
> > >>
> > >>Carl Prochilo wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Rick,  It's probably state dependent.  Limo tint is fairly common
down
> > >>
> > > here.
> > >
> > >>>Again about state laws, having lived most of my life in NY state,
> window
> > >>>tinting was much less common than what I see here in FL.  Because of
> > >>
> > > that,
> > >
> > >>>I imagine that the darker shades will draw attention from law
> > >>
> > > enforcement
> > >
> > >>>in the northern states, so staying legal is more important.
> > >>
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