[Shotimes] More A/C questions!

[Epperly]

You need to remove the oil as it is not compatable and use the Ester base
134a oil as it will tollarate some R12 oil. The receiver/dtyer needs to be
replaced also. The oriface line can be replaced with one made for 134a for
better cooling.
        Ken

> Well, from what I understand, you should replace some other parts as well
like
> the drier and one or two other parts. That is the thing, most 'conversion
kits'
> only do it half-assed and end up costing you in the long run.
>
> I believe there is something about the compressor oil between the R134a
and the
> R12 being different and it gets in to something that should be replaced.
>
> As I said, Ford used to have a TSB that listed all the proper parts for
the
> conversion and it listed out somewhere around $350 for all the parts. In
your
> case, you would have to add a compressor and labor.
>
> Find a local A/C shop and ask them what they think.
> -- 
>
> Paul L Fisher
> '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 177K Build date 11/18/1992
> - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
Holley
> 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
> Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000
0W-30
> oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
>
> SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
>
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>
> Quoting Steve Tatro <stevetatro_shotimes@att.net>:
>
> > You think the cost of the R-12 is worth it?  It will cost a bundle, no?
> >
> > I figured I could get a conversion kit with new rings, the R134a, and
the
> > fittings and be somewhat happy.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve Tatro
> > Red/Black '93 with 170k miles
> > Cincinnati, Ohio
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:sho@paul-fisher.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:48 PM
> > To: stevetatro@att.net; Steve Tatro
> > Cc: 'SHOTimes'
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] More A/C questions!
> >
> >
> > You already mentioned less efficient. It is WAY less efficient. Also,
there
> > are
> > official Ford kits out there to convert to R134a. Don't just go to
Autozone
> > and
> > get their $19.95 kit.
> >
> > If it is just your compressor that is toast, redo it with R12.
> > -- 
> >
> > Paul L Fisher
> > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 177K Build date 11/18/1992
> > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
Holley
> >
> > 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
> > Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000
0W-30
> >
> > oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
> >
> > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> >
> > Get $5 free from Paypal! https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
> >
> >
> > Quoting Steve Tatro <stevetatro_shotimes@att.net>:
> >
> > > Okay, here's my plan.
> > >
> > > Since my SHO is officially an old piece of garbage, and it's trade-in
> > > value (based on KBB, Edmunds, etc.) is now under $1000, I want to fix
> > > my a/c compressor as cheaply as possible.
> > >
> > > So, I'm going to have the old R-12 evacuated, remove/replace the
> > > compressor and clutch, convert the fittings to the new R-134a style,
> > > and refill the system.
> > >
> > > Can anybody give me a reason NOT to do this?  I know the system can't
> > > be as efficient, but I'm not about to dump $1500 into it.  Sorry if
> > > you don't like me now ;^)
> > >
> > > Is there any possible damage this can cause?  I have friend who's
> > > taking hands-on car shop classes, and when they needed to replace the
> > > compressor on an old S-10, this is exactly what they did.  I'm not
> > > saying it's the best way, but will it work and not cause any further
> > > damage?
> > >
> > > Thanks as always,
> > >
> > > Steve Tatro
> > > Red/Black '93 with 170k miles
> > > Cincinnati, Ohio
> > >
> > > P.S.  PFish, does your air work?  If so, it may be cost-effective for
> > > me to just buy your car.  I'd probably forget which one is which
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