[Shotimes] More A/C questions!

[Carl Prochilo]

Don't let that reason be a detractor.  If the job is done right, you won't
have to worry about leaks.
But even if you do decide to go the R134a route, I don't think that you'll
notice any less efficiency.  The A/C in my son's 95 MTX works very well
for an 8 year old car.
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson - 201K

> Yeah, but then every time a little leaks out and I take it to the shop to
> get it topped off, it's $50.
>
> The R134a is so cheap, I figured it might be worth a shot.  For $40 I can
> get enough R134a, the green neoprene rings, the proper fittings, and be
> done.
>
> Here's the real question.  I understand that the R12 oil isn't compatible
> with the R134a.  The best way to get the old oil out is to let the a/c run
> for awhile and then vacuum everything, right?  I can't run the a/c for any
> amount of time, so I'm not sure how to get the old oil out.  If I were to
> replace the compressor, fill the system with the R134a, run the system for
> awhile, and immediately evacuate everything (hopefully including the oil),
> couldn't I then put in brand new R134a and oil?
>
> So many questions.  So little time ;^)
>
> Thanks again everybody for the help.  Keep it coming!
>
> Steve Tatro
> Red/Black '93 with 170k miles
> Cincinnati, Ohio
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Ron Porter
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:11 PM
> To: stevetatro@att.net; 'Paul L Fisher'
> Cc: 'SHOTimes'
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] More A/C questions!
>
>
> Just get the R12, it isn't THAT bad.....maybe $100 max for a total fill.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Steve Tatro
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:29 PM
> To: 'Paul L Fisher'
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> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] More A/C questions!
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>
> You think the cost of the R-12 is worth it?  It will cost a bundle, no?
>
> I figured I could get a conversion kit with new rings, the R134a, and the
> fittings and be somewhat happy.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Tatro
> Red/Black '93 with 170k miles
> Cincinnati, Ohio
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:sho@paul-fisher.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:48 PM
> To: stevetatro@att.net; Steve Tatro
> Cc: 'SHOTimes'
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] More A/C questions!
>
>
> You already mentioned less efficient. It is WAY less efficient. Also,
> there
> are
> official Ford kits out there to convert to R134a. Don't just go to
> Autozone
> and
> get their $19.95 kit.
>
> If it is just your compressor that is toast, redo it with R12.
> --
>
> Paul L Fisher
> '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 177K Build date 11/18/1992
> - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
> Holley
> 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
> Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000
> 0W-30
> oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
>
> SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
>
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>
> Quoting Steve Tatro <stevetatro_shotimes@att.net>:
>
>> Okay, here's my plan.
>>
>> Since my SHO is officially an old piece of garbage, and it's trade-in
>> value (based on KBB, Edmunds, etc.) is now under $1000, I want to fix
>> my a/c compressor as cheaply as possible.
>>
>> So, I'm going to have the old R-12 evacuated, remove/replace the
>> compressor and clutch, convert the fittings to the new R-134a style,
>> and refill the system.
>>
>> Can anybody give me a reason NOT to do this?  I know the system can't
>> be as efficient, but I'm not about to dump $1500 into it.  Sorry if
>> you don't like me now ;^)
>>
>> Is there any possible damage this can cause?  I have friend who's
>> taking hands-on car shop classes, and when they needed to replace the
>> compressor on an old S-10, this is exactly what they did.  I'm not
>> saying it's the best way, but will it work and not cause any further
>> damage?
>>
>> Thanks as always,
>>
>> Steve Tatro
>> Red/Black '93 with 170k miles
>> Cincinnati, Ohio
>>
>> P.S.  PFish, does your air work?  If so, it may be cost-effective for
>> me to just buy your car.  I'd probably forget which one is which
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