[Shotimes] Emissions Test ??? Help !!

Erik masho95@charter.net
Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:54:29 -0400


Run the codes for the car.  Something could be effecting the emissions base
on the codes.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun & Meggen Livermore" <smlivermore@wi.rr.com>
To: "'Kevin & Cheryl Airth'" <clubairth@peoplepc.com>
Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:37 AM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Emissions Test ??? Help !!


> I actually replaced both the plugs and the wires.  It seems to run a
> little better.  Do you think this alone could be the cause of my failing
> emissions?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin & Cheryl Airth [mailto:clubairth@peoplepc.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:15 PM
> To: Shaun & Meggen Livermore
> Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Emissions Test ??? Help !!
>
> I would check the gaps and clean them. Then clean off the ends of the
> plug
> wires. I use carb spray and rinse them down. Then install the wires
> using
> dielectric grease inside the boots.
> .
> .
>
>
>
> > There was a very, very small amount in only a couple.  The plugs
> looked
> > pretty nasty as well.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kevin & Cheryl
> Airth
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:33 AM
> > To: Shaun & Meggen Livermore
> > Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Emissions Test ??? Help !!
> >
> > Shaun:
> >  Was there any oil or crap in the plug wells?
> > .
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> > > Well I changed the spark plugs and wires today, as well as added the
> > > emissions fuel additive.  I'm thinking of taking it in again this
> week
> > > to be tested.  I was looking for that SPOUT connector and couldn't
> > find
> > > it.  Can someone give me a real detailed description of where it is
> > > (pictures would be best).  I'll try giving that a shot too.  Also
> > maybe
> > > next weekend I can take a look at those rear brakes.  See what I can
> > > find out through bleeding them.  Thanks again for all your insight!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Murray
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 12:53 PM
> > > To: 'sho2go'; SHOTimes
> > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Emissions Test ??? Help !!
> > >
> > > My o2s were fairly new, and my t-stat was also brand new.  My car
> > would
> > > never get above the O on the temp gauge, and my autometer temp gauge
> > > would never get above 165 or so, even after running it hard.  So I
> > knew
> > > that my stock temp sender was ok, since the autometer was saying the
> > > same things.  The bad gas mileage was telling me it wasn't running
> > very
> > > well.  So it was either replace the cats or the EEC temp sender.
> > Since
> > > the temp sender was only about $22 I tried that one first.
> > >
> > > Bill Murray
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sho2go [mailto:srfdude@cox.net]
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 1:43 PM
> > > To: Bill Murray; 'Shaun & Meggen Livermore'; SHOTimes
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Emissions Test ??? Help !!
> > >
> > > Eec, huh?  What lead you to believe the sensor was bad?  Also I've
> > heard
> > > the
> > > Spout trick can work; I'll have to remember that if I ever have any
> > > problems.
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bill Murray" <fordsho@cloud9grafx.com>
> > > To: "'Shaun & Meggen Livermore'" <smlivermore@wi.rr.com>; "SHOTimes"
> > > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:00 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Emissions Test ??? Help !!
> > >
> > >
> > > > I had HC and NOx that were off by even more than you're showing.
> I
> > > > replaced that EEC Coolant Temp sender because it was bad and I was
> > > > running very rich.  I was getting about 275 miles to the tank
> > instead
> > > of
> > > > my normal 320, with mixed driving.  I also pulled the spout
> > connector
> > > > right before I got in line at the inspection station just for
> added
> > > > help.  I passed with no problems at all after that.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Murray
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Shaun & Meggen Livermore [mailto:smlivermore@wi.rr.com]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 12:15 PM
> > > > To: 'Bill Murray'
> > > > Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Emissions Test ??? Help !!
> > > >
> > > > The actual readings are as follows:
> > > >
> > > > HC  1.7699   Limit 0.8000
> > > > CO  5.5367   Limit 15.0000
> > > > NOx 3.5380   Limit 2.0000
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not sure if this explains what is wrong, but I need to pass this
> > damn
> > > > think!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bill Murray [mailto:fordsho@cloud9grafx.com]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:00 PM
> > > > To: 'Shaun & Meggen Livermore'; SHOTimes
> > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Emissions Test ??? Help !!
> > > >
> > > > Are you sure that there are no actual emissions readings on the
> > sheet
> > > > they gave you?  It will have NOx, CO2 and something else that I
> > can't
> > > > remember right now.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Murray
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Shaun & Meggen Livermore [mailto:smlivermore@wi.rr.com]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:06 PM
> > > > To: 'sho2go'
> > > > Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Emissions Test ??? Help !!
> > > >
> > > > Yeah I got a print out, but it didn't say much.  As far as
> > maintenance
> > > I
> > > > just bought new plugs and wires that I'm going to throw on there.
> I
> > > > also bought this fuel system additive that's supposed to help make
> > it
> > > > pass.  As for the other parts I just assume they are original.  No
> > I'm
> > > > in WI.  Could just new plugs and wire do the trick?  Also do you
> > think
> > > > that my exhaust leak could be causing the problem?  Thanks again!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of sho2go
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:52 AM
> > > > To: Shaun & Meggen Livermore; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Emissions Test ??? Help !!
> > > >
> > > > Did you get a printout of the readings?  Has there been any
> > > maintenance
> > > > lately, such as new plugs, wires, or ???  I assume original O2
> > > sensors,
> > > > cats, etc?  More info might help, but these cars pass easily if in
> > > good
> > > > tune.  Are you in CA, with EGR?
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Shaun & Meggen Livermore" <smlivermore@wi.rr.com>
> > > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 9:35 AM
> > > > Subject: [Shotimes] Emissions Test ??? Help !!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hey everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm really up a creek.  My car failed emissions a while back and
> I
> > > > have
> > > > > to get it to pass.  If I don't I can't drive it and it is
> somewhat
> > > > > worthless to have.  As far as what's wrong I don't know.  The
> > > readings
> > > > > were not very much over, so I think it can't be something too
> > major.
> > > > I
> > > > > just put two new mufflers on it and it has a leak right where
> the
> > > > y-pipe
> > > > > meets the cat-back.  Other than that it seems to drive fine.  I
> > > don't
> > > > > know where to begin looking.  Please, any help would be greatly
> > > > > apprieciated!  Thanks a lot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Shaun
> > > > > 91+ Red w/ Black interior
> > > > > 127000 miles
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