[Shotimes] St.Joseph '99 on AutoTrader

Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:51:55 GMT

To talk to them would be admitting that there is a problem.  That ain't going to happen...

Kerby

-- "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org> wrote:
I'm okay with your interpretation, but to an unsuspecting or
ignorant (in this case I use the word to mean that the person that
is not technically oriented and just expects the engine to work)
buyer, whether the manufacturer chose an overlapping design or
introduced design flaw, the end result is the same.

As a point of reference, the 3.0L V6 in Alfa 164 I have needs to
have the timing belt changed every 30K miles as a precaution since
it is an interference design.

A key difference, between the two situations though is that in the
case of the Alfa, my owner's manual warns me about this and at least
I know enough to take action.  In Ford's case, I don't think they
ever talked to their customers about this problem.
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
1992 Ultra Red Crimson

kerbyh@netzero.net said:
> Except this seems to happen much sooner, and more often than a cam
> belt breaking.  And one is a design choice, the other is a design
> flaw...
>
> Kerby
>
> -- "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org> wrote:
> Yeah, but wonder how he really feels....
>
> One can empathize with Gen III owners that are forced to deal with
> this issue when they express themselves in this manner.  I suppose
> the surprise of it to people when they learn about it is the biggest
> shock.  From the sounds of this cam weld problem, it's probably no
> worse than owning a car with an overlapping (interference between
> pistons and valves) cam design when the timing belt snaps?
> --
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
>
> Kevin M. Bisch, Pharm.D. said:
>> That's funny as hell!!!!
>>
>> At least he was honest about it, gotta give him respect for that.
>>
>> --Kevin
>>
>> At 10:44 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>>Sells a lot of insurance that way, too!
>>>
>>>Should we just send him a bunch of e-mail that says "Who bought
>>> the
>>>American made POS first?"
>>>
>>>Kerby
>>>
>>>At 10:36 PM 4/19/04 -0500, Ron & Dorathy DeReus wrote:
>>>>Somebody in St.Joseph, Missouri, isn't very interested in selling
>>>> their '99,
>>>>it would appear.  And after all that work they went to putting it
>>>> on
>>>>AutoTrader.com, too.
>>>>
>>>>Ron DeReus
>>>>95MTX
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: S.W.S. [mailto:swsigars@yahoo.com]
>>>>Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 8:35 PM
>>>>To:
>>>>Subject: SHO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Name: Ron DeReus
>>>>E-Mail Address:
>>>>Comments: Nice looking car!  I understand that these
>>>>V8's have one weakness that can be taken care of
>>>>before it fails.  Do you know what I'm talking about
>>>>and has it been fixed?  Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No. it hasn't been fixed. we were hoping some dumb-ass would just
>>>> buy the
>>>>american made piece-o-shit! for 7 grand, I think you can afford
>>>> to
>>>> fix it if
>>>>it bothers you that much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>VEHICLE INFORMATION
>>>>Make: Ford
>>>>Model: Taurus
>>>>Year: 1999
>>>>Price: 7000
>>>>Mileage: 82350
>>>>Body Style: Sedan
>>>>Color: Black
>>>>Cylinders: 8 Cylinder Gasoline
>>>>Transmission: 4 Speed Automatic with Overdrive
>>>>Doors: Four Door
>>>>Stereo: Unavailable
>>>>VIN: 1FAFP54N3XA238394
>>>>Description: 1999 Ford Taurus SHO. Lady owned &
>>>>driven for business use only. All highway miles as a
>>>>result of commuting back & forth to
>>>>Topeka/Leavenworth, Kansas and surrounding areas
>>>>from Saint Joseph, MO where my business is based.
>>>>(Licensed Insurance Broker by trade) It has a 90,000
>>>>mile factory extended warranty. Non-Smoker! Uses no
>>>>fluids. Burns no oil. A couple of miniscule
>>>>scratches here & there which I attempted to document
>>>>with the digital camera but they don't show up well
>>>>in the pictures. This is a very fun & relaxing car
>>>>to drive on extended trips. Never been wrecked. Very
>>>>reliable car! Questions: email me at:
>>>>ammiesigars@yahoo.com or call: 816-279-3243
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