[Shotimes] St.Joseph '99 on AutoTrader

[Carl Prochilo]

Yes.  However ignoring the problem causes the types of reactions you
see from the original post in the thread, and a real air of stink
about the whole thing.  Probably another reason why Ford walked away
from the SHO.

It's a whole different attitude from the beginning of the program
when the original undersized clutch was fixed.
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
1992 Ultra Red Crimson

kerbyh@netzero.net said:
>
> To talk to them would be admitting that there is a problem.  That
> ain't going to happen...
>
> Kerby
>
> -- "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org> wrote:
> I'm okay with your interpretation, but to an unsuspecting or
> ignorant (in this case I use the word to mean that the person that
> is not technically oriented and just expects the engine to work)
> buyer, whether the manufacturer chose an overlapping design or
> introduced design flaw, the end result is the same.
>
> As a point of reference, the 3.0L V6 in Alfa 164 I have needs to
> have the timing belt changed every 30K miles as a precaution since
> it is an interference design.
>
> A key difference, between the two situations though is that in the
> case of the Alfa, my owner's manual warns me about this and at least
> I know enough to take action.  In Ford's case, I don't think they
> ever talked to their customers about this problem.
> --
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
>
> kerbyh@netzero.net said:
>> Except this seems to happen much sooner, and more often than a cam
>> belt breaking.  And one is a design choice, the other is a design
>> flaw...
>>
>> Kerby
>>
>> -- "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org> wrote:
>> Yeah, but wonder how he really feels....
>>
>> One can empathize with Gen III owners that are forced to deal with
>> this issue when they express themselves in this manner.  I suppose
>> the surprise of it to people when they learn about it is the
>> biggest
>> shock.  From the sounds of this cam weld problem, it's probably no
>> worse than owning a car with an overlapping (interference between
>> pistons and valves) cam design when the timing belt snaps?
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Carl Prochilo
>> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
>>
>> Kevin M. Bisch, Pharm.D. said:
>>> That's funny as hell!!!!
>>>
>>> At least he was honest about it, gotta give him respect for that.
>>>
>>> --Kevin
>>>
>>> At 10:44 PM 4/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sells a lot of insurance that way, too!
>>>>
>>>>Should we just send him a bunch of e-mail that says "Who bought
>>>> the
>>>>American made POS first?"
>>>>
>>>>Kerby
>>>>
>>>>At 10:36 PM 4/19/04 -0500, Ron & Dorathy DeReus wrote:
>>>>>Somebody in St.Joseph, Missouri, isn't very interested in
>>>>> selling
>>>>> their '99,
>>>>>it would appear.  And after all that work they went to putting
>>>>> it
>>>>> on
>>>>>AutoTrader.com, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron DeReus
>>>>>95MTX
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: S.W.S. [mailto:swsigars@yahoo.com]
>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 8:35 PM
>>>>>To:
>>>>>Subject: SHO
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Name: Ron DeReus
>>>>>E-Mail Address:
>>>>>Comments: Nice looking car!  I understand that these
>>>>>V8's have one weakness that can be taken care of
>>>>>before it fails.  Do you know what I'm talking about
>>>>>and has it been fixed?  Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No. it hasn't been fixed. we were hoping some dumb-ass would
>>>>> just
>>>>> buy the
>>>>>american made piece-o-shit! for 7 grand, I think you can afford
>>>>> to
>>>>> fix it if
>>>>>it bothers you that much.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>VEHICLE INFORMATION
>>>>>Make: Ford
>>>>>Model: Taurus
>>>>>Year: 1999
>>>>>Price: 7000
>>>>>Mileage: 82350
>>>>>Body Style: Sedan
>>>>>Color: Black
>>>>>Cylinders: 8 Cylinder Gasoline
>>>>>Transmission: 4 Speed Automatic with Overdrive
>>>>>Doors: Four Door
>>>>>Stereo: Unavailable
>>>>>VIN: 1FAFP54N3XA238394
>>>>>Description: 1999 Ford Taurus SHO. Lady owned &
>>>>>driven for business use only. All highway miles as a
>>>>>result of commuting back & forth to
>>>>>Topeka/Leavenworth, Kansas and surrounding areas
>>>>>from Saint Joseph, MO where my business is based.
>>>>>(Licensed Insurance Broker by trade) It has a 90,000
>>>>>mile factory extended warranty. Non-Smoker! Uses no
>>>>>fluids. Burns no oil. A couple of miniscule
>>>>>scratches here & there which I attempted to document
>>>>>with the digital camera but they don't show up well
>>>>>in the pictures. This is a very fun & relaxing car
>>>>>to drive on extended trips. Never been wrecked. Very
>>>>>reliable car! Questions: email me at:
>>>>>ammiesigars@yahoo.com or call: 816-279-3243
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