[Shotimes] 7000RPM, Man , I'd have to spin a bearing

Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:41:07 -0500

Personally having learned to drive in an 18 wheeler, downshifting to use
engine braking is the way I drive.  Done that for the last 35 years and over
1,000,000 miles with no bad effects.  ATX or MTX it how I do it.

Just exactly what is suppose to be bad about it????

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: "'Chris "Zap"'" <zap@columbus.rr.com>; <SHOTIMES@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 7000RPM, Man , I'd have to spin a bearing

> Not sure what you mean by "high rpm downshifts". If it's just downshifting
> from 5th to 3rd to pass someone, no problem.
>
> If it's to use the engine as a brake.....no good....that what the brakes
are
> for.
>
> What wears clutches is when they are not fully engaged (well, they don't
> wear when they are fully disengaged, but that is rougher on the TOB). I
had
> ridden with a LOT of people, in SHOs and otherwise, who slip the clutch
WAY
> more than is necessary, and not just on startup, but also on other shifts.
> That's what wears the clutch.
>
> FWIW, here's my SHO clutch history for clutches that I've had for awhile.
> Only relevant for the old '89 that I bought new, as I haven't had the
clutch
> in this '94 long enough (nor did I own the '95 log enough).
>
> '89 - Factory 9.25" clutch: Died at 32k, along with the original tires.
> Lotsa burnouts & some dragstrip use.
>
> '89 - Factory 9.25" clutch: Replaced original at 32K (new one not out
yet).
> This one was still fine at about 55K when
> I got Ford to replace it with the new 9.75"
> clutch & flywheel
>
> '89 - Factory 9.75" clutch: Lasted from 55K to about 133K, when I broke a
> strap on a 1-2-1 shift at the SHOcago Convention
> dragstrip. When disassembled, it was pretty worn, but probably would have
> gone 85-90K.
>
> '89 - HiRevs Jr.: SHO Shop clutch installed at 135K. Still good at 182 K
> when I sold the car, replaced at about 195K by the
> new owner.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Chris "Zap"
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:30 AM
> To: SHOTIMES@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 7000RPM, Man , I'd have to spin a bearing
>
>
>     I love driving the SHOs this way, but does it lead to clutch problems
or
> are high RPM downshifts really more of the problem?  After all the clutch
> issues I've seen with the two SHOs I don't want to be doing a clutch job
for
> a long time...(but I want to enjoy them!)
>
> -Chris
> '95 EG MTX
> Joy's "perpetually broken" '94 MB MTX
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> To: "'Ron Porter'" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; <SHOTIMES@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 7000RPM, Man , I'd have to spin a bearing
>
>
> > Sounds like the last time I drove the SHO!
> >
> >
> > Paul L Fisher
> >
> > 1999 Ford Taurus SHO TR 68K - Kirk'ed 2/29/04.
> >
> >  - Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30
> >  - Amsoil TS-124 Oiled Foam air filter
> >
> > Visit my website: http://www.paul-fisher.com
> > SHOClub Member: http://www.shoclub.com
> > Amsoil dealer: http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Ron Porter
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:47 PM
> > To: Bobbonnit1@aol.com; SHOTIMES@autox.team.net
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 7000RPM, Man , I'd have to spin a bearing
> >
> > BS!!
> >
> > Let me recount my short trip for errands that I did an hour ago.
> >
> > Pulled out of the sub unto the 55 mph road. Hit 7K in 1st & 2nd, the
> hauled
> > down to go to the Post Office.
> >
> > Pulled out of the Post Office in a 40 mph zone, hit 7K in 1st, then
> shifted
> > to 4th.
> >
> > Left the Muffler Man, where I dropped off two front rotors for turning,
> and
> > hit 7K in 1st, then shifted to 4th in the 40 mph zone. Went to the car
> wash.
> >
> > Had to make a left across traffic pulling out of the car wash in a 45
mph
> > zone. Did 7K I 1st and 2nd pulling out.
> >
> > After stopping for gas and pulling in to the butcher next door, I did a
7k
> > 1-2 shift in a 55 mph zone getting into traffic before driving home.
> >
> > Let's see.....that's eight 7K rpm runs over the span of a 5-mile drive.
> > Pretty typical. I did this for 10 years and 182K miles on the original
'89
> > (which, with 200K+ miles will still beat most SHOs, plus gets 30 mpg on
> the
> > highway).
> >
> > I've been driving the three SHOs since then the same way. BTW, my last
> > speeding ticket was in 5/96.
> >
> > Ron Porter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Bobbonnit1@aol.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:17 PM
> > To: SHOTIMES@autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Shotimes] 7000RPM, Man , I'd have to spin a bearing
> >
> >
> > I've taken my SHO to 7000 a few times........Straight up rocket
ship...But
> > if
> > I did it in town here, I'd be looking thru tinted windows at the West
> County
> >
> > Detention Center  !!!!  ha!  lolol
> >
> > Robert K. '89 130K OEM     Cruise Control is not like Auto Pilot!
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