[Shotimes] (OT) ISDN vs Dial-up

[Carl Prochilo]

I think your ISDN specs are right, but DSL can vary.  Bellsouth for
instance offers various tiers of service.  Their newest DSL Extreme
service is (up to) 3 Mbps down, 384 Kbps up which compares well with
cable.  A friend of mine just got this and they threw in a static IP too.
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson

On Sun, August 22, 2004 10:55 pm, Mark Mucher said:
> I thought ISDN was 128 kbps vs. 1500 kbps (down/256 up)) for DSL...
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of David Rosicke
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:51 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shotimes] (OT) ISDN vs Dial-up
>
> ISDN requires an ISDN Modem or an ISDN Router.
>
> Cisco 804 or Ascend (Lucent) Pipeline 50 both work great.  We migrated
> from
> the Ascend to Cisco when Ascend stopped supporting the MAX.
>
> We are just starting to evaluate RLAN from SBC (DSL into ATM) at work as a
> replacment for ISDN.
>
> What I have traditionally used for the house before we got DSL was two
> phone
> lines bonded together.  Multilink PPP - same technology that's used to
> "bond" the two B channels together in ISDN.  Slower than ISDN, but faster
> than regular dial-up.  At home I used two modems in the same computer, but
> at an office I used a 3Com OfficeConnect Dual Analog Router.
>
> At one place I worked, I used THREE phone lines because the company we
> were
> contracting for allowed unlimited phone lines but no DSL or Cable service
> into the building.
>
> Most ISP's ask for $10.00/month extra for the M-PPP technology.
>
> Dave R.
>
> P.S. UTP (Unshielded Twisted Pair - CAT 3 and up) cable was intended for
> Digital Phone (including ISDN) AND data on the same wire originally.  4
> wires for Data, 4 for phone.
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 13:17:17 -0400 (EDT)
> From: John Paner
> To: Paul L Fisher
> cc: v8sho@v8sho.com,
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - ISDN wiring
>
> ISDN is just a digital phone service. It runs on a standard single pair
> line
> for a BRI service. A PRI (23+1 channels) runs on two pairs (DS-1).
>
> A standard phone line will work just fine.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2004, Paul L Fisher wrote:
>
>> OK. My wireless DSL service sucks so I ordered the only other
>> reasonably priced internet access available in my area, ISDN. Anyhow,
>> allegedly, they ran a 2B + 1D channel ISDN line to my house. I am
>> supposed to run the wiring from the network interface to my terminal
>> adapter. Looking at the network interface, there are only 4 wires
>> coming in. 2 of them are definitely my POTS service; I didn't think
>> ISDN could run on just 2 wires? Can it? What do I need to run from there
> to my terminal adapter?
>>
>>
>>
>> The thing that makes this SHO related is that I check my SHO email
>> with the internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am using good old dial-up at this moment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul L Fisher
>>
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> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 11:26:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Shylo McKinsey
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - ISDN wiring
> To: Paul L Fisher
> Cc: TaurusSHO
>
> What's so good about "old dial up"? ;-)
>
> Shylo McKinsey
>
> --- Paul L Fisher wrote:
>
>> OK. My wireless DSL service sucks so I ordered the only other
>> reasonably priced internet access available in my area, ISDN.
>> Anyhow, allegedly, they
>> ran a 2B + 1D channel ISDN line to my house. I am supposed to run the
>> wiring from the network interface to my terminal adapter.
>> Looking at the network
>> interface, there are only 4 wires coming in. 2 of them are definitely
>> my POTS service; I didn't think ISDN could run on just
>> 2 wires? Can it? What do
>> I need to run from there to my terminal adapter?
>>
>>
>>
>> The thing that makes this SHO related is that I
>> check my SHO email with the
>> internet.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am using good old dial-up at this moment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul L Fisher
>>
>> 1999 Ford Taurus SHO TR 68K - Kirk'ed 2/29/04.
>>
>> - Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30
>>
>> - Amsoil TS-124 Oiled Foam air filter
>>
>> Visit my website: http://www.paul-fisher.com
>>
>>
>> SHOClub Member: http://www.shoclub.com
>>
>>
>> Amsoil dealer: http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil
>
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