[Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan

[Paul Nimz]

>and Pontiac just butchered its name

That's how I feel about the Mustang II.  My brother had one with the 302 and 
what a dog.  Of course this was during the initial emissions controlled 
engines as that all started in '71, IIRC. '72 for sure.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason Hartberger" <at3hartberger@mail.com>
To: "Jarrod Clift" <clift@chartertn.net>; "'_ShoTimes'" 
<Shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan


>I have no issues with the LS1, and I agree that it's a fantastic engine, 
>but
> the reason I say what I do is, well, the LS1 is so common! they're even
> putting them in PT cruisers (not from the factory, tho), and it dilutes 
> the
> value of the engine, IMO. One of the reasons the SHO engine is so special 
> is
> because Ford never put it in another car, and very, very, very few other
> cars have a SHO engine. Hell, few other people know what a SHO engine is.
>
> Anyhoo, you're dead-on for all the other points. The GTO has a soul all 
> its
> own and a helluva history, especially for people that used to own one 
> (like
> my dad... feel old yet?), and Pontiac just butchered its name and its
> history by putting out this (foreign!) thing. They figured they could cash
> off the name with any ol' car. They were wrong. Cars aren't like shoes; 
> you
> can't just stick a name on it and make it 'good'.
>
> Jason
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jarrod Clift" <clift@chartertn.net>
> To: "'_ShoTimes'" <Shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 3:55 PM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
>
>
>> The LS1 is one of the best V8's made IMO. The GTO is not selling well
>> because it looks bland and because the dealers were greedy and marking
>> it up way over sticker.  A lot of people wanted it to look more retro
>> styled, like the new mustang.  If it were called something other than
>> GTO a lot of the complaints (like styling) would go away.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Hartberger
>> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 11:47 AM
>> To: Leigh Smith; '_ShoTimes'
>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
>>
>> I think the GTO isn't selling not because it's underappreciated by the
>> public, but because the public feels betrayed by Pontiac using an
>> australian
>> chassis around an engine that ain't 'all that and a bag of chips'. I
>> know it
>> goes fast, but it just doesn't look... like a GTO. It's a cheap sellout
>> and
>> the public knows it.
>>
>> Jason
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