[Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan

[Carl Prochilo]

I had a 75, and it was a horrible piece of shit.  If Ford considered
discontinuing the Mustang, it was because of that car.  Underpowered 2.3L
4 with a camshaft that disintegrated.  I had to change that bastard in 15
degree weather.
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson

On Sat, August 28, 2004 8:42 pm, Ron Porter said:
> Also keep in mind that the Mustang II had some very good sales years in
> the
> mid '70s.
>
> In & of itself, it also wasn't a bad car....although considering the
> Mustang
> lineage, it was a bit hard to take!!
>
> Folks who weren't there really can't judge the cars of the '70s without
> looking at all of what was available. There is a good reason why car
> enthusiasts were heavy into custom vans back in those years!!
>
> Some engines made it through '72 unscathed (Chrysler 340 comes to mind),
> by
> all were poopy by '73.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 7:29 PM
> To: Jason Hartberger; Jarrod Clift; '_ShoTimes'
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
>
>
>>and Pontiac just butchered its name
>
> That's how I feel about the Mustang II.  My brother had one with the 302
> and
>
> what a dog.  Of course this was during the initial emissions controlled
> engines as that all started in '71, IIRC. '72 for sure.
>
> Paul Nimz
> '97 TR
> '93 EG mtx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Hartberger" <at3hartberger@mail.com>
> To: "Jarrod Clift" <clift@chartertn.net>; "'_ShoTimes'"
> <Shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 3:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
>
>
>>I have no issues with the LS1, and I agree that it's a fantastic engine,
>>but
>> the reason I say what I do is, well, the LS1 is so common! they're even
>> putting them in PT cruisers (not from the factory, tho), and it dilutes
>> the
>> value of the engine, IMO. One of the reasons the SHO engine is so
>> special
>> is
>> because Ford never put it in another car, and very, very, very few other
>> cars have a SHO engine. Hell, few other people know what a SHO engine
>> is.
>>
>> Anyhoo, you're dead-on for all the other points. The GTO has a soul all
>> its
>> own and a helluva history, especially for people that used to own one
>> (like
>> my dad... feel old yet?), and Pontiac just butchered its name and its
>> history by putting out this (foreign!) thing. They figured they could
>> cash
>> off the name with any ol' car. They were wrong. Cars aren't like shoes;
>> you
>> can't just stick a name on it and make it 'good'.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jarrod Clift" <clift@chartertn.net>
>> To: "'_ShoTimes'" <Shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 3:55 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
>>
>>
>>> The LS1 is one of the best V8's made IMO. The GTO is not selling well
>>> because it looks bland and because the dealers were greedy and marking
>>> it up way over sticker.  A lot of people wanted it to look more retro
>>> styled, like the new mustang.  If it were called something other than
>>> GTO a lot of the complaints (like styling) would go away.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>>> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Hartberger
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 11:47 AM
>>> To: Leigh Smith; '_ShoTimes'
>>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
>>>
>>> I think the GTO isn't selling not because it's underappreciated by the
>>> public, but because the public feels betrayed by Pontiac using an
>>> australian
>>> chassis around an engine that ain't 'all that and a bag of chips'. I
>>> know it
>>> goes fast, but it just doesn't look... like a GTO. It's a cheap sellout
>>> and
>>> the public knows it.
>>>
>>> Jason
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