[Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
Donald Mallinson
dmall@mwonline.net
Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:23:18 -0500
Ron,
I have no problem with people seeing the SHO realistically,
I think my years with the SHO qualify me to see through the BS.
The sales numbers just don't indicate a total sales failure,
because there would be no way the car would survive in any
form for 11 years if that was true.
I think once you get latched onto a subject, you just can't
see the forest for the trees. Marauder, out in 2-3 years
with truly horrible sales.
Edsel out in 3 years with truly horrible Sales.
SHO, out in 11 years with not so great sales, but not
horrible, and not a total failure.
All you have to do is not see things in totally black and
white terms.
Blind cheerleading? Again, you tend to see things in only
black and white. I don't think anyone with a realistic
perspective will think I am a blind cheerleader.
I love my SHO's, I love the conventions, and all throughout
my writing, e-mails etc. I talk all the time about the warts
the car has. Doesn't stop me or you from liking them.
You can't make a theory fly that I don't understand the
faults with the car, that just isn't going to happen.
You also don't need to call it a total failure, that didn't
happen either.
I really do know that you are one of the true SHO folk, I
just would like you to, just once, see a topic with
something other than a 100% one direction attitude!
Don Mallinson
Ron Porter wrote:
> We are talking apples and atom bombs here. What the motoring press &
> enthusiasts think about a car has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it's
> performance on the showroom floor. If largely decreasing sales that only met
> projections ONE year (for the projected 20K/year....and it was in '93 when
> the ATX came out) doesn't qualify as a sales failure, I don't know what the
> hell does!! From SHOtimes:
>
> Model Year 5-speeds Automatics Total
> 1989 15,561 15,561
> 1990 8,609 8,609
> 1991 9,136 9,136
> 1992 8,000 8,000
> 1993 *4,095 *18,337 21,991
> 1994 *2,497 *11,201 13,698
> 1995 *2,036 *7,980 10,016
> Right Hand Left Hand
> 1996 91 4,942 5,033
> 1997 1 (one) 10,132 10,133
> 1998 **2,317
> 1999 no data
>
> It's not my "desire to never sound like a cheerleader", it's to fight the
> nausea from the blind cheerleading for this car and I don't find on any of
> the car lists that I've subscribed to over the years. Get real. To love the
> car for what it is is fine, to attempt to rewrite history to act like the
> SHO was the Second Coming is way over the top, and not justified.
>
> My description of what dealers and sales people think of the SHO is reality.
> There are obviously people here who take it as a slam on all that the car
> is. No, it was more than "a few '89s left over", there were SHOs left over
> almost to the next ('91) model year, and this was the case for '89, '95, and
> '99s....plus obviously my '94 that sat on the lot for 15 months. I will
> spare the other years of SHOs, as I wasn't looking at leftover sales in
> those years when I wasn't interested in buying.
>
> Don, I guess my 15 years of SHO ownership (and having at least one of each
> Gen) doesn't entitle me to have "maybe" seen a few things with these cars,
> and you obviously don't see me as a "TRUE SHO BELIEVER" since I might dare
> to disparage certain aspects pertaining to these cars.
>
> Ron Porter
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:12 PM
> Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
>
>
> The SHO numbers were better than the new GTO, and no, sales
> didn't nosedive, sales of near 10,000 aren't horrible, even
> is below predictions.
>
> I am not letting anything blind me, I just don't feel like
> the car was a sales failure.
>
> Sure there were 89's left over. With ultra rare exceptions
> there are ALWAYS cars left over well into the next year.
>
> I think you are letting your desire to never sound like a
> cheerleader, cause you to unfairly put down a car that was
> seriously applauded by all the motoring press for more than
> the 15 minutes of fame you assign to it.
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