[Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan

[Carl Prochilo]

So you are saying that Ford could produce a new SHO, and dealerships would
accept it in the nearfuture?
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson

On Sun, August 29, 2004 5:23 pm, Donald Mallinson said:
> Ron,
>
> I have no problem with people seeing the SHO realistically,
> I think my years with the SHO qualify me to see through the BS.
>
> The sales numbers just don't indicate a total sales failure,
> because there would be no way the car would survive in any
> form for 11 years if that was true.
>
> I think once you get latched onto a subject, you just can't
> see the forest for the trees.  Marauder, out in 2-3 years
> with truly horrible sales.
>
> Edsel out in 3 years with truly horrible Sales.
>
> SHO, out in 11 years with not so great sales, but not
> horrible, and not a total failure.
>
> All you have to do is not see things in totally black and
> white terms.
>
> Blind cheerleading?  Again, you tend to see things in only
> black and white.  I don't think anyone with a realistic
> perspective will think I am a blind cheerleader.
>
> I love my SHO's, I love the conventions, and all throughout
> my writing, e-mails etc. I talk all the time about the warts
> the car has.  Doesn't stop me or you from liking them.
>
> You can't make a theory fly that I don't understand the
> faults with the car, that just isn't going to happen.
> You also don't need to call it a total failure, that didn't
> happen either.
>
> I really do know that you are one of the true SHO folk, I
> just would like you to, just once, see a topic with
> something other than a 100% one direction attitude!
>
> Don Mallinson
>
> Ron Porter wrote:
>> We are talking apples and atom bombs here. What the motoring press &
>> enthusiasts think about a car has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it's
>> performance on the showroom floor. If largely decreasing sales that only
>> met
>> projections ONE year (for the projected 20K/year....and it was in '93
>> when
>> the ATX came out) doesn't qualify as a sales failure, I don't know what
>> the
>> hell does!! From SHOtimes:
>>
>> Model Year 5-speeds Automatics Total
>> 1989 15,561   15,561
>> 1990 8,609   8,609
>> 1991 9,136   9,136
>> 1992 8,000   8,000
>> 1993 *4,095 *18,337 21,991
>> 1994 *2,497 *11,201 13,698
>> 1995 *2,036 *7,980 10,016
>>  Right Hand Left Hand
>> 1996 91 4,942 5,033
>> 1997 1 (one)  10,132 10,133
>> 1998   **2,317
>> 1999   no data
>>
>> It's not my "desire to never sound like a cheerleader", it's to fight
>> the
>> nausea from the blind cheerleading for this car and I don't find on any
>> of
>> the car lists that I've subscribed to over the years. Get real. To love
>> the
>> car for what it is is fine, to attempt to rewrite history to act like
>> the
>> SHO was the Second Coming is way over the top, and not justified.
>>
>> My description of what dealers and sales people think of the SHO is
>> reality.
>> There are obviously people here who take it as a slam on all that the
>> car
>> is.  No, it was more than "a few '89s left over", there were SHOs left
>> over
>> almost to the next ('91) model year, and this was the case for '89, '95,
>> and
>> '99s....plus obviously my '94 that sat on the lot for 15 months. I will
>> spare the other years of SHOs, as I wasn't looking at leftover sales in
>> those years when I wasn't interested in buying.
>>
>> Don, I guess my 15 years of SHO ownership (and having at least one of
>> each
>> Gen) doesn't entitle me to have "maybe" seen a few things with these
>> cars,
>> and you obviously don't see me as a "TRUE SHO BELIEVER" since I might
>> dare
>> to disparage certain aspects pertaining to these cars.
>>
>> Ron Porter
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>> On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
>> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:12 PM
>> Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
>>
>>
>> The SHO numbers were better than the new GTO, and no, sales
>> didn't nosedive, sales of near 10,000 aren't horrible, even
>> is below predictions.
>>
>> I am not letting anything blind me, I just don't feel like
>> the car was a sales failure.
>>
>> Sure there were 89's left over.  With ultra rare exceptions
>> there are ALWAYS cars left over well into the next year.
>>
>> I think you are letting your desire to never sound like a
>> cheerleader, cause you to unfairly put down a car that was
>> seriously applauded by all the motoring press for more than
>> the 15 minutes of fame you assign to it.
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