[Shotimes] Fw: !!PLEASE READ Y pipe warpspeed!!

[cmichaelo@optonline.net]

I would prefer a 2 1/2" Y-pipe merge. IMHO, the 2 1/4" merge (and subsequent 2 1/4" pipe to resonator) is the single most restricting "component" in the entire exhaust system. Having looked at flow charts vs HP, I honestly believe that by going to 2 1/2" merge and replacing the resonator pipe with a 2 1/2" pipe+resonator, that we could all gain about +15HP just from that (on a typically modified SHO.) The reason for this is that the flow of an effectively 2 1/4" system that most of us have on our SHOs simply doesn't flow enough. A 2 1/2" system will flow about 23% more gases, and it won't hurt low-end torque all that much (though, I'm not particularly sure about this.) 

Of course, a 2 1/2" Y-pipe is no longer a bolt in....so that may be a deterent.

Btw, what happend to carsound?  They are no longer on the web?  I'm trying to buy some carsound cats but I can't find them anymore on the web. Anyone got a clue?


Michael Olsen
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:58 pm
Subject: [Shotimes] Fw: !!PLEASE READ Y pipe warpspeed!!

> Ok guys/girls
> I talked to Dallas at Warpspeed performance. He is
> interested in doing the Y pipe. Mike, do you still
> have that spare stocker that I can grab free of
> charge? (I am in no way trying to compete with any
> header buy going on right now- I don't think that
> anyone who wants a Y pipe would go for a header or
> vise versa so I don't feel as if we are trampling on
> anyone's toes)Warpspeed is willing to have fedex pick
> up the pipe at your location and would need it for at
> least 2 weeks so that they can make up a jig. They
> also need underbody car pictures but I think that I
> can handle that. Mike, if you can't spare the pipe can
> anyone else? Any ATX owners want to send one out as
> well? Kirk, got any spares to donate to the cause?
> 
> The good news. When Dallas saw that P+'s pipe is $525
> he choked and said "holy shit, they don't have much
> competition, do they?" He said that his comparable Tig
> welded stainless Maxima Y pipe is around $200 cheaper
> than P+'s SHO version (the two pipes are similar
> although I don't know if that pipe has cats or not)
> 
> He is also going to start using metallic substrate
> cats which are smaller, light off faster, flow a
> little better and more importantly are a bit more
> durable than standard cats (ie carsound, etc). I know
> that many of us have suffered cat problems from
> aftermarket pipes so this might be a nice solution.
> 
> What I need to know: based on what I have leard this
> week, aftermarket hipo Y pipes for our car are
> generally 2.25" and the factory is 2.00 correct? Is
> this what we want? Do we also want equal length pipes
> like the SHOshop pipe or do we want something like the
> P+ pipe? They aren't going to copy anyone's design
> verbatim; they are just going to use the OEM pipe as a
> guide. Personally, I'd prefer a P+ type of design in
> 2.25" with the better cats and cheaper cost.
> 
> So far we have only discussed doing an MTX but ATX
> wasn't out of the question. They would also like it if
> someone could come down there on a weekend so that
> they could do test fits and make up a second pipe.
> They are in NW Arkansas, 3 hours from KC, 5.5 from
> Dallas, 2 from Tulsa, 4 from OKC and 85 miles from
> Springfield. This is it everyone; I think that this
> will work out well.
> 
> Can someone please cross post this to shotimes?
> 
> please respond to me either on this list or privately.
> If you are only on shotimes, I won't get the email
> unless you send it to me privately. Who knows, if this
> works maybe there can be a V8 Y pipe in the future
> too.
> 
> Thanks
> Ian
> 
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