[Shotimes] 80mm MAF failure, CLEANING procedure and Materials?

[Donald Mallinson]

I would still not recommend using the dishwasher, even on 
top rack, on gentle cycle, it uses high pressure to clean, 
and other than stainless steel type filters, anything with 
gauze or paper as an element can be easily damaged by high 
pressure air or water.

It can be very hard to see this damage without strong 
magnification.  An oil analysis would pick up filter damage 
though.

You may be OK, but I just would not recommend a dishwasher 
for cleaning filters unless the manufacturer specifically 
said it was OK, and I am guessing they did not.

Your choice, your filter, just giving advice.

Don Mallinson

Bill Murray wrote:

> This replacement filter is not a K&N brand.  It specifically said, do
> not oil.  When I put it in the dishwasher, it was on the top rack on a
> gentle cycle of some sort, didn't use any soap either, just water.  It
> came out looking brand new.
> 
> Bill Murray
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Mallinson [mailto:dmall@mwonline.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 10:36 AM
> To: Bill Murray
> Cc: SHOTimes
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 80mm MAF failure, CLEANING procedure and
> Materials?
> 
> Bill,
> 
> You put it in the dishwasher?  What is the filter media on 
> that new Pro-M filter?  If it is gauze like the K&N, the I 
> would NOT use the dishwasher.  First the soaps for dishes 
> are way too harsh for that type of filter element, second 
> the water pressures inside a dishwasher are meant to BLAST 
> food from dishes.  Chances are you have damaged the filter 
> and it is letting dirt by.
> 
> IF K&N SAYS to clean it that way, then you might be OK, but 
> I would still use the recommended cleaner or the cleaner 
> from K&N and a gentle flow of water from the kitchen sink.
> 
> NOTE: You should NEVER use high pressure air or water on a 
> K&N filter.  Shouldn't use high pressure air on a paper 
> filter either.
> 
> Don Mallinson
> 
> Bill Murray wrote:
> 
> 
>>I bought a replacement filter for my Pro-M 77 about a year ago.  It is
> 
> a
> 
>>white colored filter, and like the Pro-M site says, I have not oiled
>>mine.  I would have preferred a genuine K&N replacement, but this is
>>supposedly a custom made size for Pro-M, the number listed on the
>>original K&N did not appear in their recent catalog.  I've wondered
>>about oiling it, but I've been knocking out the big stuff when I
> 
> change
> 
>>the oil, and I've put it in the dishwasher once or twice to clean it
>>better.  FWIW...
>>
>>Bill Murray
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Donald Mallinson [mailto:dmall@mwonline.net] 
>>Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:28 PM
>>To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 80mm MAF failure, CLEANING procedure and
>>Materials?
>>
>>That looks like they are just using a K&N style filter and 
>>NOT oiling it!  This is NOT a good way to filter air.  The 
>>oil does NOT coat the MAF element unless you get stupid with 
>>oiling it, and the oil is essential in getting the fine 
>>particles of dirt that can wear out a motor.
>>
>>Anyone actually bought one of these to see what the filter 
>>media is?  If just Gauze, then I would use the K&N filter 
>>oil anyway.
>>
>>Don Mallinson
>>
>>Ron Porter wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Don,
>>>
>>>Pro-M is using this oil-less filter:
>>>
>>>http://pro-flow.com/Product%20pages/filter%204in.htm
>>
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