[Shotimes] (OT) SHO replacement

Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:08:35 -0400


Hey!  What have you done with the real James Ryan?!  There was no ranting
or swearing or name-calling in your post at all.  ; )

I kinda miss it.


Mike Wojton
Toledo, Ohio

-'95 White MTX
   '96 Brake Upgrade

"Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan




shotimes-admin@autox.team.net wrote on 07/23/2004 12:30:58 AM:

> The Cadillac V-8-6-4 system was introduced the same year as the IBM-PC -
> 1981, and was used for that year only.  The "computers" in cars of the 
late
> 70s and early 80s weren't called OBD-I, that didn't start until 1982. If
> the brand new IBM-PC had 640kB of RAM and a 4.77MHz 8088 I can only 
guess
> that the "computers" in the cars at that time were 1/10 of that.
> 
> My friend Lou's father bought a Caddy in 1981 with the V-8-6-4 and he 
loved
> it.  He was so proud of it and drove it for many years without problems. 
 I
> did a search on the internet and it seems its reliability was pot-luck 
and
> the SOP was to disable the system and just let the engine be a V-8.
> 
> It's easy to look back in hindsight, 25 years ago, and say the Cadillac
> system was a piece of junk.  I applaud them for their vision and the
> engineering effort.  Who knows, if Cadillac hadn't offered the system in
> 1981 maybe Daimler wouldn't have been inspired.
> 
> When I did the search, I also learned 2 other things.  1 - The V-8-6-4
> system wasn't designed by Cadillac it was designed by Eaton.  2 - This
> wasn't Caddy's first foray into this area, in the 1930's they offered a
> similar system on their V-16.  The system could shut off an entire bank,
> effectively making a straight-8, and it supposedly worked well.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> To: "'Ron Childs'" <rbchilds@pacbell.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:38 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) SHO replacement
> 
> 
> > Probably because of the new capability of the electronics. When the 
V8-6-4
> > came out, wasn't OBD-I still the standard?
> >
> >
> > Paul L Fisher
> >
> > '99 Ford Taurus SHO Toreador Red Clearcoat Metallic 66K - Kirk'ed 
2/29/04
> >
> >  - Amsoil Two-Stage Air Filter - TS-124
> >
> > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net 
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Ron Childs
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:21 PM
> > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) SHO replacement
> >
> > In the road tests I have seen of the new hemis, they have said the 
system
> is
> > not
> > even noticeable; much better than the Cadillac 8-6-4 system.
> >
> > -Ron Childs  '91
> >
> > --- BOB FISHER <thunderbird88@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >  cadillac tried this a while back and it was a flop.i wonder if it 
will
> > flop
> > > for chrysler too.BOB
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "bjshov8" <bjshov8@comcast.net>
> > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) SHO replacement
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think the jury is still out on this but the Hemi has a system 
that
> > drops
> > > > out some cylinders under light load in order to improve mileage.
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