[Shotimes] OT - Bastards did it again

[Paul L Fisher]

Unconfirmed or un-substantiated?

Here's the quote "How can we inform on our brothers when we see all these
pictures coming from Abu Ghraib and Rafah," Muklas Nawaf, a resident of
Dhahar al-Budaih, said". Here's the web site: http://tinyurl.com/2xrmk

Every picture I had heard about from Abu Graib and oral sex said 'simulated'
not actual.

Another case in point. When a car was blown up a couple days ago and 13
people were killed (8 of them Iraqi's, by the way), the Iraqi people on the
scene threw rocks into the burning cars and poked the still burning bodies
with sticks.

Once again, I can't believe that anyone in their right mind would say anyone
'had it coming'.

We screwed up at Abu Graib. Soldiers are getting court-martialed. A CIA
contractor is getting charged with murder for his interrogation technique in
Afghanistan. We are a civilized society.

Paul L Fisher

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Fisher [mailto:dataflash@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:52 PM
To: Paul L Fisher; v8sho@v8sho.com; 'TaurusSHO'
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - Bastards did it again

I wish that I had saved the following quote so I could
repeat it verbatim and give credit to the source.
Regardless, it was from someone high up in the Saudi
government. It was something like:

"Most Arabs realize that the horrific actions of the
American soldiers in Abu Graib are not indicative of
all American people. However it seems that most
Americans cannot seperate the actions of the
terrorists of 9/11 from those of the rest of the Arabs
around the world."

I think the message is clear and well said. While I
also feel a great deal of sadness for Paul Johnson and
his family (who also lived about 30 min. away-I used
to pass his employer, Lockeed Martin every other day)
it is not doing anyone any good to act like these
terrible actions are supported by everyone in the
Middle East.

Spreading unconfirmed/unsubstantiated quotes is only
adding to the endless cycle of hostility. The
Saudis/Arabs that I deal with at work, who pump my
gas, see at the grocery store; I don't think they want
to kill me because of what happened in Abu Graib.

I also don't understand this insensitivity towards all
of the prisoners. I didn't see pictures of anyone
wearing panties on their heads but I did see naked
prisoners being forced into oral sex on another men.
This is in a culture where being nude in front of
someone is so demeaning, let alone being raped by
others.

FWIW. I was hoping that this thread wouldn't explode
on the list but I find it hard to keep my mouth shut
on some of these topics. I am sure someone else was
going to respond anyway. Either way we should probably
keep it offlist?

Ian


--- Paul L Fisher <sho@paul-fisher.com> wrote:
> They beheaded that hostage in Saudi Arabia.
> 
> I love this quote from a Saudi citizen "How can we
> turn in our brothers when
> we see what is going on in Abu Graib?"
> 
> Once again, women's panties on head DOES NOT EQUAL
> beheading.
> 
> Paul L Fisher
> 
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