[Shotimes] (OT) Caught a Thief in Action

Fri, 5 Mar 2004 10:03:50 -0500

Alright!  Who the hell poked the hornets nest and then ran!?  ; )

Mike Wojton
Toledo, Ohio

-'95 White MTX
   '96 Brake Upgrade

"Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan

shotimes-admin@autox.team.net wrote on 03/05/2004 09:45:25 AM:

> I can feel the rant building up in me right now, but I'm going to keep 
it
> short and sweet.  And no this isn't directed at anyone on the list or 
anyone
> in particuler......except maybe "the man."
> 
> This is "The System."  Either you're part of it, or you're against it. 
This
> is how our sociaty works.  We have all kinds of rules that let people 
get
> away with all kinds of things.  But you know what's even worse?  This is 
the
> same system that will choose an inexperenced idiot that just happens to 
have
> a degree over a qualified expert who just has experence.  It happens
> everyday.  It's just another form of nepotism really.  Except in this 
case
> the "family" is the plutocrats, the well offs, the people with money and
> power.  Sure, you can succeed in America no matter what your background
> is......as long as you play your cards right....you know, get good 
grades,
> get lucky with a scholarship, go to the right school, join the right 
frat,
> marry the right daughter.  The "American Dream" as we once knew it, 
never
> really existed.  Now don't get me wrong I know a couple people that made 
out
> pretty good when they started with nothing, even by cheating the system.
> But that doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the people I know that started 
out
> with a silver spoon and now have a platinum one.  The System controls it
> all.  It's ultimatily controlling who comes to power and who doesn't. 
Play
> by the rules, as rediculious as they may be, and you just might get
> somewhere, play against them and get screwed.  But I think George is on 
to
> something here.  225 years is a long time to live under the same system. 
 So
> many rules have changed, but the premiss has stayed the same.  I don't 
know
> what we should switch to though.  Anarchy has crossed my mind a few 
times,
> but the conclusion is always the same....I like rules, but I just want 
less
> of them, not an absence of them.  This is now getting too long and 
detailed
> so I'll conclude this rant. (I am however open to private discussion)
> 
> The system, it's a beautiful thing, and a dreadfuly ugly one, all at the
> same time.  So the next time you think the system is screwing you, think
> along your lifespan and see if there was anytime the system gave YOU an
> unfair advantage?  I know I've been screwed AND helped by it plenty of
> times, be it a new job or a speeding ticket.  And you thought you did
> everything on your own..........  <G>
> 
> -Noah South III
> 
> P.S......Please don't turn this into a 50 reply OT thread.  I know it's
> tempting, but this message alone will irk enough of the list, you don't 
need
> to fan the flames.
> 
> P.P.S.......One last thing to ponder, no one needs to answer this. Think 
of
> a politician in the past 25 years that came from a poor and powerless
> background.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "George Fourchy" <krazgeo@jps.net>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 1:48 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Caught a Thief in Action
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 15:58:34 -0500, Dave Garber wrote:
> >
> > >The
> > >would be thief made a conscious choice to trespass and attempt to 
steal
> > >private property and I think it's high time people be held 
accountable
> > >for their own actions in situations like this..
> >
> > Boy-O-Boy is THAT the truth.
> >
> > In Saudi Arabia, in China, in plenty of other countries there is much 
less
> of a
> > petty theft problem than we have here.  You want to know why?  Because
> when a thief
> > is caught stealing something as small as an apple off a cart in an 
open
> air market,
> > he can have his hand cut off.   CUT OFF!!  A stewardess, years ago, 
off
> either an
> > American or European airline took a piece of fruit off a cart in 
Saudi,
> fully
> > intending to pay for it.  She started to eat it before paying, and was
> nearly
> > arrested for theft.  There was a big brouhaha about it at the time. 
How
> many
> > people in this country go in and raid the bulk peanuts or candy 
baskets in
> a
> > supermarket with no intention of paying for what they take?  Hmmmmmm?
> >
> > If our Founding Fathers were writing the Constitution right now, 
rather
> than 225
> > years ago, and were well familiar with the way life is around here 
today,
> you can
> > bet your most valuable asset, whatever that might be, that the portion
> about civil
> > rights wouldn't be quite so liberal as it is.  People were a little 
more
> civil back
> > then, even though the quality of life was way less than it is now.
> >
> > No huge threads, please.....this is just my opinion.  Totally 
worthless as
> barter.
> >
> > George
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