[Shotimes] N2O Bottle Mounting

[Erik Balser]

You can check out how I mounted my Zex tank here:
http://www.cardomain.com/id/masho95
There was just enough metal to the trunk for me to mount the bottle straps
to it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Clerkin" <Anthony.Clerkin@ihouse.com>
To: "SHOtimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:05 PM
Subject: [Shotimes] N2O Bottle Mounting


> All,
>
> I am having a hard time figuring out how to mount my bottle:
> My plan was to use self tapping screws to mount it to the floor
> of the trunk.  The problem is that the short bracket doesn't have enough
> clearance for me to get a screw in and be able to use a drill to drive
> it in.  Where and how do those of you who use n2O mounting your bottles?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin & Cheryl Airth [mailto:clubairth@peoplepc.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 10:40 AM
> To: Anthony Clerkin; SHOtimes
> Subject: ATX High Stall Converter?
>
> Anthony:
>  Thanks for the in depth answer!
>  But several questions.
> ALL torque converters for the SHO are lock up converters. Stock and
> after
> market. I guess you could get one made without the lockup feature but I
> think it will cause additional troubles, computer codes ect. The stall
> speed
> is set by converter diameter and fin design inside the converter. You
> MUST
> decrease the outside diameter to get a significantly higher stall speed
> or
> increase the HP of the engine it's hooked too. The fin angle inside the
> converter is another variable but has a much smaller effect. Remember
> the
> old Buick switch pitch converters? They allowed the low (stock setting)
> stall for more efficiency until you flipped the electrical switch to
> change
> the blade angle inside the converter. This gave you a looser or higher
> stalling converter for faster launches. Not a huge difference but
> noticeable. I wish we had a switch pitch setup for the SHO!!
>
>  The lock up clutch is computer controlled. The engine and transmission
> speeds are monitored but the PCM decides when and if the converter
> clutch is
> engaged.
>
>
>  It is extremely doubtful that the PCM will even allow converter lockup
> at
> the drag strip. You can check this yourself. A small amount of throttle
> will
> ALWAYS kick the lockup off. Try it on the highway when you have the
> cruise
> control on. It does not take much!!
>
>
> So I still don't have a good idea what's different in the after market
> converter? No one has mentioned any different diameters or any stall
> RPM's?
>
>  Do you get better gas milage with the FPS converter? I noticed no
> change at
> all?
> .
> .
>
>
>
>
>
> Kevin asked me some interesting questions below and I thought I would
> share my answers with the group.
>
> The stock torque converter in the SHO is what most people would call a
> "high stall" converter.  When FPS sells you one of there high stall
> units they are selling you a "lockup" type high stall converter.
>
> Here is the difference:
> At higher speeds, the transmission catches up to the engine,
> eventually moving at almost the same speed. Ideally, though, the
> transmission would move at exactly the same speed as the engine, because
> this difference in speed wastes power. This is part of the reason why
> cars with automatic transmissions get worse gas mileage than cars with
> manual transmissions.
>
> To counter this effect, a lockup clutch. When the two halves of the
> torque converter get up to speed, this clutch locks them together,
> eliminating the slippage and improving efficiency.
>
> I found this to be a great improvement, allowing my ATX to be nearly as
> efficient as an MTX. This higher level of efficiency is noticeable both
> in my quarter mile times and at the gas station.
>
>
>
> Anthony:
>  You bring up a question that I can't get a solid answer on. The SHO
> already
> has a high stall converter in it from the factory. Around 3000 rpm. Now
> I
> got a new converter from FPS when they redid the transmission but it is
> a
> stock unit as far as I can tell. Who makes the high stall unit you have?
> What is the stall speed and did you find it helpful for a street car?
> Thanks!
> .
> .
> Kevin
>
>
> Did you have the high stall torque converter installed?  I did and it
> ruptured, the debris from the rupture clogged my tranny filter and
> destroyed my trans!  So FPS shipped out a new tranny and now the torque
> converter doesn't convert!  So now they're sending out a new torque
> converter in a week and I can't drive my car because if this converter
> breaks before the new one gets installed, I'll have to wait another 2
> weeks for a whole new trans! :(  Oh well, as long as it is done before
> June I guess I won't miss any races.
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