[Shotimes] Re: Smokey

James F. Ryan III av8r567@optonline.net
Mon, 10 May 2004 10:58:25 -0400


>IT happened a few years ago, the American version of 
>europeon and Australia sedan racing.  BMW 3 series, Dodge 
>Stratus, Honda Civic etc.  Forgot the official name.


"North American Super Touring".  I remember seeing a few of those races.
I agree with you Don, that was some excellent "stock car" racing.  Not
that Nascar pile of steaming crap.


>
>Lasted two or three years.  Dodge was the only manufacturer 
>to get involved and they won the title two years straight
>
>It was GREAT racing, using the actual cars, and most of the 
>actual motor.  All had race quality trans, and the "ricer" 
>look that you see a lot of (huge negative camber) comes from 
>that series.
>
>too bad GM and Ford didn't get involved.  One guy ran a 
>Contour, one guy ran a Pontiac, the rest were imports and 
>the Dodge two car team with David Donohue as one driver.
>
>I am sorry I never got to see on in person, but I watched 
>every race on TV, it totally blew away F1, Cart, IRL and 
>Nascar for excitement.  Cars rubbing, bumpers flying, 
>passing everywhere, all the time.  Close racing, lots of 
>speed, all the fun tracks.
>
>RIP.
>
>Don Mallinson
>
>Jim and Debbie Leyden wrote:
>
>> I really like the fact that they can, on the spot, make up a rule 
>> against something just because they don't like it or they think it 
>> might give an advantage to the team they don't want to have an 
>> advantage!
>> 
>> I think that NASCAR should be scrapped and a new series that is 
>> actually =based on FACTORY cars should be started.  Kinda 
>like the old 
>> AAA stock cars used to be.  No more rear wheel drive Taurus, No more 
>> pushrod V8's that you can't even BUY in a car now days.  No more of 
>> the stereotypical NASCAR bullshit. I was looking at a 
>display of about 
>> a dozen NASCAR cars at the local Wal-Mart parking lot a 
>while back.  I 
>> noticed that all the cars were almost exactly the same with the same 
>> axles, hubs, steering gear and so on.  I asked about and was nearly 
>> thrown out of there!  Then one member of the "Press Corps" explained 
>> to me that "It was in the interest of safety"
>> 
>> Bullshit
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> On Behalf Of MonsieurBoo@aol.com
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 8:02 AM
>> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Shotimes] Re: Smokey
>> 
>> 
>> "How about the time he showed up to a race with a wind driven 
>> generator
>> (before alternators were used for all you young 
>whippersnappers). Nothing
>> was in 
>> the rules prohibiting this, but a rule was made up on the 
>spot that said it
>> was 
>> illegal :-)"
>> 
>> Yep, we can thank Smokey for the NASCAR tradition of making up the 
>> rules as
>> they go along -- and they get better at it every year.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Mark LaBarre
>> 94 ATX 125k
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