[Shotimes] Ethnic Diversity

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hmmm SHOForum looks better everyday.
-Me
--- Bekki Jones <broland@CLEMSON.EDU> wrote:
> To begin with, I don't see what Hockey has to do
> with NASCAR or SHOs, but I 
> just wanted to make a comment on the statement that
> the countries named are 
> "ethnically Caucasian."  The countries listed (USA,
> Canada, Sweden, Poland, 
> Russia, Czech) and Northern Asia are all very
> different.  There are "black" 
> people in Poland just like USA.  Also, Russians and
> Czechs are, in fact, 
> mostly Caucasian, but not enough to say that they
> are  Caucasian based 
> countries.  I'm saying this because I am personally
> Ludar Roma (aka 
> "Gypsy"), and my family came here from Russia.  My
> people are not 
> considered Caucasian any more than a Hispanic,
> Latin, or black person.  In 
> fact, if my mother were not Caucasian, I would be
> considered a 
> minority.  Also, there is not a country in Asia that
> is even remotely 
> Caucasian based.  Why did race even come up here? 
> We're supposed to be 
> celebrating the Power of the Great SHO!  Focus,
> people!
> 
> 
> Message: 2
> From: "James F. Ryan III" <av8r567@optonline.net>
> To: "'Noah South III'" <RaggTopp@comcast.net>,
> "Donald Mallinson"
>    <dmall@mwonline.net>, "'SHOTimes-Mailing List'"
>    <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re:NHL  Was:NASCAR numbnuts
> Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:34:29 -0400
> 
>  >Really?  Black players in Hockey?  I haven't seen
> a single
>  >one.
> 
> Grant Fuhr played in the NHL from 1981-2000.  He was
> with the Edmonton
> Oilers during the Gretzky dynasty.  However, he was
> a goalie so not many
> people knew he was black (because of the goalie
> mask).
> 
> Current black NHL (not minor league) players are:
> 
> Fred Brathwaite (goalie) - Columbus Blue Jackets
> Kevin Weekes (goalie) - Carolina Hurricanes
> Anson Carter (right wing) - Los Angeles Kings
> Jarome Iginla (right wing) - Calgary Flames
> Mike Grier (right wing) - Buffalo Sabres
> Georges Laraque (right wing) - Edmonton Oilers
> Donald Brashear (left wing) - Philadelphia Flyers
> Peter Worrell (left wing) - Colorado Avalanche
> 
> These 8 players comprise 1.2% of the entire NHL, but
> that's still 100%
> more than NASCAR.
> 
> 
>  >Also, if you didn't notice, the only countries you
> named are
>  >ones that are ethnically Caucasian. Plus Sweden,
> Poland,
>  >Russia, and anything else in Northern Asia are all
> considered
>  >to be VERY close ethnically.
> 
> Also, if YOU didn't notice, countries near the
> equator do not get snow
> and ice.  It makes it kinda hard to learn how to
> play ice hockey in the
> plains of the Serengeti or in the middle of the
> rainforest.
> 
> 
>  >Hockey does indeed lack ethnic diversity as a
> sport.
> 
> You haven't got a clue.
> 
> 
>  >
>  >-Noah South III
>  >
>  >> -----Original Message-----
>  >> From: James F. Ryan III
> [mailto:av8r567@optonline.net]
>  >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:33 PM
>  >> To: 'Noah South III'; 'SHOTimes-Mailing List'
>  >> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re: NASCAR numbnuts
>  >>
>  >> >Any why the hell hasn't anyone taken some pot
> shots at Hockey?
>  >>
>  >> Hockey?!?!?  Now you've gone a struck a nerve,
> Mr. South.  "Lacking
>  >> ethnic diversity" does not mean "lacking black
> guys".  Hockey is
>  >> probably the most diverse sport we have in the
> U.S.  There are black
>  >> and white players AND players from MANY
> different ethnicities - USA,
>  >> Canada, Sweden, Poland, Russia, Czech, etc.
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