[Shotimes] OT: Beheading
Paul L Fisher
sho@paul-fisher.com
Thu, 13 May 2004 06:22:28 -0500
Small technicality. The Koran teaches that you either convert to Islam or
you should be killed. As a matter of fact, it teaches that if a Muslim kills
an infidel (non-believer), he will be rewarded in Heaven.
Christianity, however, doesn't do that.
We need to all get over the Crusades. It was a bad thing. It was hundreds of
years ago. Let's get over it.
As for the beheading, the prison thing was just an excuse. Why did they do
the exact same thing to Daniel Pearl in Afghanistan?
Paul L Fisher
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Fisher [mailto:dataflash@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:59 PM
To: Paul L Fisher; 'David Carmean'
Cc: Shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT: Beheading
This wasn't addressed to me but I'll respond.
Beheading isn't appropriate. Period.
I think that you take the Abu Gharib (sp) situation a
bit lightly. It's a lot more like forced rape and not
anything like "soldiers dancing around naked people".
The group that beheaded the hostage (I forget his name
but he was local to my area) may have used the prison
torture as a reason. While I understand anyone's anger
at the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners I do not feel
that beheading anyone is a means to an end.
Unfortunately it only continues a cycle of hatred for
the other side. I don't feel that anyone is trying to
make a case to say that the beheading was just. I want
to make that clear as I think its unfair to try to
stick that argument to any political affiliation.
I also find it disturbing that someone called this a
"Muslim atrocity". These are dangerous words in a
dangerous time. Most Muslims are actually very
peaceful. It is a shame that we have become accustomed
to associating the actions of groups of Al Quaeda
extremists with the Muslim faith. Yes, they kill and
maim in the name of Islam but that does not
automatically mean that all Muslims are terrorists.
History shows that Christianity has been used (and
still is depending on your perspective) as an excuse
for genocide.
Ian-yes, I am a Democrat and no you don't have to
agree with me
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 11:52:41AM -0500, Paul L
> Fisher wrote:
> > Wow! Do you think that this beheading was
> appropriate payback for a few of
> > our soldiers dancing around a few of their people
> naked?
> >
> >
> > Paul L Fisher
> >
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Carmean [mailto:dlc-sho@halibut.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:38 AM
> > To: Paul L Fisher
> > Cc: 'Mike'; Shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT: Beheading
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey, you know what, Paul?
> >
> > I'm almost as pissed at all you Liberal-bashing
> asshole bigots as I
> > am as the assholes who murdered this guy.
> >
> > Shut the fuck up and go back to talking about
> cars, OK?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 08:31:08AM -0500, Paul L
> Fisher wrote:
> > > Speaking of Liberals, they showed one of the
> Democratic Senators and he
> > said
> > > (not exact quote), "I can understand their anger
> over our humiliation of
> > the
> > > prisoners". As Hannity said yesterday, this is
> the difference between
> > > atrocities and abuse. For you liberals who don't
> know the difference,
> > abuse
> > > is us putting women's underwear on someone's
> head. An atrocity is
> > beheading
> > > a civilian.
> > >
> > > I am almost as pissed today as I was on
> September 11th.
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul L Fisher
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > On Behalf Of Mike
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:39 PM
> > > To: Shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > Cc: TechSHO@topica.com
> > > Subject: [Shotimes] OT: Beheading
> > >
> > > Just ran into the complete video for this Muslim
> atrocity, just another
> in
> > a
> > > string. Anybody want a copy, email me off list.
> This isn't for
> prurient
> > > reasons, so if thats your purpose forget it. We
> all need to know what
> > we're
> > > facing, "know thy enemy". Any bleeding heart
> libs need not post ugly
> > rants;
> > > I won't answer. This is war, guys. They want
> us dead. Anybody who
> > thinks
> > > this is some sort of retaliation, for "prisoner
> abuse" think twice.
> They
> > > killed Daniel Perl the same way, and have been
> doing this sort of thing
> > for
> > > decades. Are we going to cut and run? I think
> not.
> > > Mike
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