[Shotimes] Re:NHL Was:NASCAR numbnuts

[James F. Ryan III]

>I'm behaving.  I could be very rude right now but I'll refrain.

There's a change.  Did you up your meds?  And you 'could be very rude'
because I was RUDE and provided you with the facts?!?!?!?


>What exactly does countries near the equator not getting snow 
>have to do with the FACT that such countries as Sweden, 
>Poland, Russia, etc. are all very close ethnicly?
>Nothing at all.

Uggghhh!  How can you argue your point if you don't even remember the
point that you made?  So Mr. South, where exactly do NON-caucasian
people originate?  How about Central America, the Carribean islands,
South America, Africa, the Middle East, India, and Australia.  You need
to bone up on your world geography and look at a map.  Those
countries/continents are all close to or right on the equator.  You see
Mr South, the earth is round and therefore the equator is closest to the
sun, hence the reason there is no snow or cold weather (and the reason
those people have darker-colored skin).


>You made a strawman out of my argument

I have no idea what that means.  Must be an MI thing.


>just so you could 
>insult me.  Bad form.

I did the research and provided you with the cold hard facts, and that's
insulting and bad form????  No, bad form is spouting off on issues which
you clearly know nothing about, without using facts, which is exactly
what you did.

I gave you and the shotimes list the stats, just in case anyone was
curious to know how many black players are actually in the NHL, and
exactly how was that insulting?  Perhaps you confuse "insulted" with
"losing an argument" or "not knowing what your talking about".

I have been an AVID hockey fan for the past 23 years, and I've been
playing ice hockey for 19 years.  Your comment was that you watch (on TV
no doubt) a Red Wings game 'once in a blue moon'.


>The only thing you succeed in doing, 
>was proving my point that the black players in hockey are 
>indeed far and few between.

Yup, that's what facts will do for ya.


>I will take it no further, because insulting you will solve nothing.

"Never argue with a moron.  They'll bring you down to their level and
beat you with experience."

That, Mr. South, is an insult, in case you didn't recognize it.




>-Noah South III
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: James F. Ryan III [mailto:av8r567@optonline.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:34 PM
>> To: 'Noah South III'; Donald Mallinson; 'SHOTimes-Mailing List'
>> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re:NHL Was:NASCAR numbnuts
>> 
>> >Really?  Black players in Hockey?  I haven't seen a single one.
>> 
>> Grant Fuhr played in the NHL from 1981-2000.  He was with 
>the Edmonton 
>> Oilers during the Gretzky dynasty.  However, he was a goalie so not 
>> many people knew he was black (because of the goalie mask).
>> 
>> Current black NHL (not minor league) players are:
>> 
>> Fred Brathwaite (goalie) - Columbus Blue Jackets
>> Kevin Weekes (goalie) - Carolina Hurricanes
>> Anson Carter (right wing) - Los Angeles Kings
>> Jarome Iginla (right wing) - Calgary Flames
>> Mike Grier (right wing) - Buffalo Sabres
>> Georges Laraque (right wing) - Edmonton Oilers
>> Donald Brashear (left wing) - Philadelphia Flyers
>> Peter Worrell (left wing) - Colorado Avalanche
>> 
>> These 8 players comprise 1.2% of the entire NHL, but that's 
>still 100% 
>> more than NASCAR.
>> 
>> 
>> >Also, if you didn't notice, the only countries you named are ones 
>> >that are ethnically Caucasian. Plus Sweden, Poland, Russia, and 
>> >anything else in Northern Asia are all considered to be VERY close 
>> >ethnically.
>> 
>> Also, if YOU didn't notice, countries near the equator do 
>not get snow 
>> and ice.  It makes it kinda hard to learn how to play ice hockey in 
>> the plains of the Serengeti or in the middle of the rainforest.
>> 
>> 
>> >Hockey does indeed lack ethnic diversity as a sport.
>> 
>> You haven't got a clue.
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> >-Noah South III
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: James F. Ryan III [mailto:av8r567@optonline.net]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:33 PM
>> >> To: 'Noah South III'; 'SHOTimes-Mailing List'
>> >> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re: NASCAR numbnuts
>> >>
>> >> >Any why the hell hasn't anyone taken some pot shots at Hockey?
>> >>
>> >> Hockey?!?!?  Now you've gone a struck a nerve, Mr. South. 
> "Lacking 
>> >> ethnic diversity" does not mean "lacking black guys".  Hockey is 
>> >> probably the most diverse sport we have in the U.S.  There are 
>> >> black and white players AND players from MANY different 
>ethnicities 
>> >> - USA, Canada, Sweden, Poland, Russia, Czech, etc.
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