[Shotimes] Re:NHL Was:NASCAR numbnuts

James F. Ryan III av8r567@optonline.net
Fri, 14 May 2004 12:27:22 -0400


Good one, Bill.  My friend Ruth is from Guatemala and I say to her, "All
you Mexicans are so hot-tempered"  just to bust on her.  She gets mad
for a second but then smiles because she knows I'm joking with her.  We
could be watching TV together and she turns it to one of the
spanish-language stations and I jokingly say, "Not these Mexicans
again!".  She then tells me that person is from Columbia, that one is
from Belize, that one is Cuban, that one is from Venezuela.  She can
tell them apart by sight.  I don't know how she does it.



>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net 
>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Murray
>Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:40 AM
>To: 'Noah South III'; 'SHOTimes'
>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re:NHL Was:NASCAR numbnuts
>
>
>Noah, go ask someone from Puerto Rico if they are Mexican and 
>when the last time they were back in their home county of 
>Mexico was.  I can guarantee that they aren't going to like 
>you and if they bother to give you an answer they're gonna 
>tell you that they are very different then a Mexican in the 
>culture and heritage.  Now go do the same thing to a Polish 
>person and a Russian.  They'd probably spit on you, the 
>history between them is not a good one, and they too are very 
>different, they even speak different languages!  They are very 
>diverse ethnically. Ethnicity is not just the color of your skin.
>
>Your rants don't make a lot of sense sometimes.
>
>Bill Murray
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Noah South III [mailto:RaggTopp@comcast.net]
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:26 AM
>> To: SHOTimes-Mailing List
>> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re:NHL Was:NASCAR numbnuts
>> 
>> 
>> I'm behaving.  I could be very rude right now but I'll refrain.
>> 
>> What exactly does countries near the equator not getting snow
>> have to do
>> with the FACT that such countries as Sweden, Poland, Russia, 
>> etc. are all
>> very close ethnicly?
>> 
>> Nothing at all.
>> 
>> You made a strawman out of my argument just so you could
>> insult me.  Bad
>> form.  The only thing you succeed in doing, was proving my 
>> point that the
>> black players in hockey are indeed far and few between.  Thus 
>> my sarcastic
>> comment of "Really?  Black players in Hockey?"
>> 
>> I will take it no further, because insulting you will solve nothing.
>> 
>> -Noah South III
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: James F. Ryan III [mailto:av8r567@optonline.net]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:34 PM
>> > To: 'Noah South III'; Donald Mallinson; 'SHOTimes-Mailing List'
>> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re:NHL Was:NASCAR numbnuts
>> > 
>> > >Really?  Black players in Hockey?  I haven't seen a single one.
>> > 
>> > Grant Fuhr played in the NHL from 1981-2000.  He was with
>> the Edmonton
>> > Oilers during the Gretzky dynasty.  However, he was a
>> goalie so not many
>> > people knew he was black (because of the goalie mask).
>> > 
>> > Current black NHL (not minor league) players are:
>> > 
>> > Fred Brathwaite (goalie) - Columbus Blue Jackets
>> > Kevin Weekes (goalie) - Carolina Hurricanes
>> > Anson Carter (right wing) - Los Angeles Kings
>> > Jarome Iginla (right wing) - Calgary Flames
>> > Mike Grier (right wing) - Buffalo Sabres
>> > Georges Laraque (right wing) - Edmonton Oilers
>> > Donald Brashear (left wing) - Philadelphia Flyers
>> > Peter Worrell (left wing) - Colorado Avalanche
>> > 
>> > These 8 players comprise 1.2% of the entire NHL, but that's
>> still 100%
>> > more than NASCAR.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >Also, if you didn't notice, the only countries you named are ones 
>> > >that are ethnically Caucasian. Plus Sweden, Poland, Russia, and 
>> > >anything else in Northern Asia are all considered to be 
>VERY close 
>> > >ethnically.
>> > 
>> > Also, if YOU didn't notice, countries near the equator do
>> not get snow
>> > and ice.  It makes it kinda hard to learn how to play ice
>> hockey in the
>> > plains of the Serengeti or in the middle of the rainforest.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >Hockey does indeed lack ethnic diversity as a sport.
>> > 
>> > You haven't got a clue.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >
>> > >-Noah South III
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: James F. Ryan III [mailto:av8r567@optonline.net]
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:33 PM
>> > >> To: 'Noah South III'; 'SHOTimes-Mailing List'
>> > >> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re: NASCAR numbnuts
>> > >>
>> > >> >Any why the hell hasn't anyone taken some pot shots at Hockey?
>> > >>
>> > >> Hockey?!?!?  Now you've gone a struck a nerve, Mr.
>> South.  "Lacking
>> > >> ethnic diversity" does not mean "lacking black guys".  
>Hockey is 
>> > >> probably the most diverse sport we have in the U.S.
>> There are black
>> > >> and white players AND players from MANY different
>> ethnicities - USA,
>> > >> Canada, Sweden, Poland, Russia, Czech, etc.
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