On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 01:20:54 -0500, Ron Fleshman wrote: >Not for me or Kai Winding. Mr. Winding (the Al Hirt of the trombone) taught >me how to do it. > >Of course, that was many years ago... You know/knew Kai Winding!!?? Cool!! I LOVED his album with "More" and "Pipeline" on it!! Played that every day in the mid '60s while in college!! George