[Shotimes] RE: (OT) Airbags & Helmets: from Ford and SCCA

John Stout sho_man1@yahoo.com
Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:28:34 -0800 (PST)


yeah, thats what i meant, even though it wasn't what I said, polyester just kinda melts to ya

Paul Nimz <pnimz@v8sho.com> wrote:>Not really for flame retardence (cotton burns as easily as anything!!). 
>It's
>that synthetic fibers can stick to your skin when they burn.

Actually it is the synthetic (plastic) fibers will melt and stick to your 
skin. Cotton does not melt.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Porter" 
To: "'TaurusSHO'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] RE: (OT) Airbags & Helmets: from Ford and SCCA


> Not really for flame retardence (cotton burns as easily as anything!!). 
> It's
> that synthetic fibers can stick to your skin when they burn.
>
> I also suspect (but am not really sure) that the long pants/shirt rule is
> more to give you minimal protection against bumps from hitting things 
> inside
> the car, as well as from flying glass, in case something unpleasant 
> happens.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of John Stout
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:21 AM
> To: Shylo McKinsey; TaurusSHO
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: (OT) Airbags & Helmets: from Ford and SCCA
>
>
> Helmets, Long pants, Long sleeve shirts, COTTON, most tracks it has to be
> COTTON for flame retardence
>
> Shylo McKinsey wrote:Say, this is probably already
> public knowledge...but
> forgive my ignorance (again). Do most, if not all,
> folks who enter Track Day at the conventions every
> summer wear helmets?
>
> Shylo McKinsey
>
> '91 White MTX
>
> --- Ron Porter wrote:
>
>> Rick,
>>
>> For yourself, or anyone who is considering doing any
>> track events, getting
>> an SA (rather than M) helmet is a good idea, as it
>> is becoming a requirement
>> for many tracks & events.
>>
>> One of the cheaper (if not the cheapest) one out
>> there is the G-Force open
>> face. Here is one vendor that offers them (scroll
>> down the page):
>>
>> http://www.randys-racemart.com/bellhelmets.html
>>
>> Ron Porter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rick Glass [mailto:rick@pitroadproducts.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:13 PM
>> To: Shotimes; V8List SHO; SHO Tech
>> Subject: Re: (OT) Airbags & Helmets: from Ford and
>> SCCA
>>
>>
>> Thanks Ron,
>>
>> I have been looking at helmets, this is very useful
>> information.
>>
>> BTW, I would consider this post far more ON TOPIC
>> than alot of the recent
>> list activity.
>>
>> Rick Glass
>> Nashville, TN
>> SESHOC
>> '99 Silver 61k (still adding up)
>> Flowmaster 40's
>> no "pre-muff"/resonator
>> WELDED (Kirk's 432nd, 8-31-04)
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ron Porter"
>> To: "Shotimes" ; "V8List
>> SHO" ;
>> "SHO Tech"
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:19 PM
>> Subject: (OT) Airbags & Helmets: from Ford and SCCA
>>
>>
>> Here's the content of a couple of posts that deal
>> with helmets and airbags.
>> First is from the SCCA, and I have cut-n-pasted the
>> second, which was from a
>> Ford release that someone posted.
>>
>> Ron Porter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Matt Murray [mailto:mattm@optonline.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 2:03 PM
>> To: 911/993/996
>>
>> Before you buy that helmet yet, there has been a
>> firestorm on various Solo
>> 2/autocross/rally list. Yesterday, the SCCA released
>> the following
>> information. It is not final, but would certainly be
>> relevant to your
>> purchases.
>>
>> http://scca.org/_Filelibrary/File/AirbagAdvisory.pdf
>>
>>
>> In addition to what you mentioned they also are
>> looking at this
>> information:
>> NOTE THIS IS NOT SCCA INFORMATION NOR SCCA
>> DIRECTIVE, BUT INFO
>> FROM FORD.
>>
>> Something from Ford that SCCA might find
>> interesting.
>>
>> EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, PLEASE CEASE USE OF FULL
>> FACED
>> HELMETS IN VEHICLES WITH LIVE STEERING WHEEL
>> AIRBAGS.
>>
>> It was brought up at the recent International
>> Committee for
>> Proving Ground Safety that several companies do not
>> allow use of
>> full face helmets in vehicles with (driver-side)
>> airbags,
>> due to the risk of severe neck injury for the airbag
>> impacting the
>> bottom of the full-faced helmet. Full-faced helmets
>> are, of
>> course, allowed in vehicles without airbags or in
>> vehicles with
>> de-activated airbags.
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