[Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214

[Leigh Smith]

Mike;
I'd suspect cam sensor. You definatelt got the 214 code plus the slow to
start symptom. When mine went bad, it acted very sporadically, going lean,
CE light, stumbling, throwing lots of other codes like O2. It is used
primarily during start-up but the engine apparently does monitor its output
while driving. And if it varies, it drives the ECM haywire. Antifreeze is
often suspected with killing the crank sensor. Maybe oil would do the same
thing?
Why don't you just unplug it and see how it runs? It shouldn't be sporadic
then.
Lee

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>
To: "'Paul Nimz'" <pnimz@v8sho.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 28, 1997 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214


> I get 176 first, then the 214
>
> The o2 sensor was from Napa.  This was before I became aware that the
> Bosch was better
>
> Am I correct in assuming that when a CID goes bad, it can take several
> attempts before the car will start?  It usually takes between one to two
> seconds of cranking to start my SHO.  Every once in a while I'll have to
> turn the key twice.  I have a CID on hand if it totally dies on me.
> Could there be some oil buildup in the sensor that is weakening the
> magnetic field (I guess that's how it works).
>
> >> Could my condition have anything to do with the +20hp StuporChip I
> got
> >> from EBay?
>
> >Is it properly installed between your ears?  :)
>
> Yeah, it's in but those ends were pointy
>
> Mike Bruce
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:23 PM
> To: Mike Bruce; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>
> > Could my condition have anything to do with the +20hp StuporChip I got
> > from EBay?
>
> Is it properly installed between your ears?  :)
>
> What kind of O2 sensors are you using?  Perhaps a different brand?  NGK
> makes the OEM Ford ones.
>
> Paul Nimz
> '97 TR
> '93 EG mtx
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>
> To: "'John J. Weidenbenner'" <johnjweid@charter.net>;
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 1997 9:15 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>
>
> > Just looked at the front plugs.  They all appear the same to me. A
> > little white on the ground, and some black elsewhere.  I don't see
> > anything too wrong with that.
> > I figured the same about the EGR, but I looked it over anyhow.
> Visually
> > no problems.
> > All signs point to the front O2 sensor.  I've removed and installed
> > those buggers countless times over the last 2.75 years.  I think I may
> > have a spare around here somewhere.
> > The CID sensor looked like it was covered in grime.  The rear edge of
> > the valve cover was damp with oil to boot.  It will wait another month
> > or so to be fixed.
> >
> > Could my condition have anything to do with the +20hp StuporChip I got
> > from EBay?
> >
> > Ian-
> > The O2s have both been replaced since I purchased the car, so within
> > 25,000 miles.  The car doesn't burn any oil(I'm going to regret saying
> > that).  The MAF is a Lincoln unit that was a part of the SHOshop stage
> 1
> > kit.  My skinny arms have no problem getting back behind the motor;)
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John J.
> Weidenbenner
> > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:29 AM
> > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
> >
> > Paul's right. The EGR sensor would only affect the rear bank.
> >
> > John W.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Paul Nimz" <pnimz@v8sho.com>
> > To: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
> >
> >
> >> That's the front bank, I'd pull the plugs up front and see if they
> are
> > all
> >> similar or if one is much more white than the others.
> >>
> >> Paul Nimz
> >> '97 TR
> >> '93 EG mtx
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