[Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214

[Paul Nimz]

>It usually takes between one to two
> seconds of cranking to start my SHO.

Classic cam position sensor symptom.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>
To: "'Paul Nimz'" <pnimz@v8sho.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 28, 1997 2:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214


>I get 176 first, then the 214
> 
> The o2 sensor was from Napa.  This was before I became aware that the
> Bosch was better
> 
> Am I correct in assuming that when a CID goes bad, it can take several
> attempts before the car will start?  It usually takes between one to two
> seconds of cranking to start my SHO.  Every once in a while I'll have to
> turn the key twice.  I have a CID on hand if it totally dies on me.
> Could there be some oil buildup in the sensor that is weakening the
> magnetic field (I guess that's how it works).
> 
>>> Could my condition have anything to do with the +20hp StuporChip I
> got
>>> from EBay?
> 
>>Is it properly installed between your ears?  :)
> 
> Yeah, it's in but those ends were pointy
> 
> Mike Bruce
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:23 PM
> To: Mike Bruce; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
> 
>> Could my condition have anything to do with the +20hp StuporChip I got
>> from EBay?
> 
> Is it properly installed between your ears?  :)
> 
> What kind of O2 sensors are you using?  Perhaps a different brand?  NGK 
> makes the OEM Ford ones.
> 
> Paul Nimz
> '97 TR
> '93 EG mtx
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>
> To: "'John J. Weidenbenner'" <johnjweid@charter.net>; 
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 1997 9:15 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
> 
> 
>> Just looked at the front plugs.  They all appear the same to me. A
>> little white on the ground, and some black elsewhere.  I don't see
>> anything too wrong with that.
>> I figured the same about the EGR, but I looked it over anyhow.
> Visually
>> no problems.
>> All signs point to the front O2 sensor.  I've removed and installed
>> those buggers countless times over the last 2.75 years.  I think I may
>> have a spare around here somewhere.
>> The CID sensor looked like it was covered in grime.  The rear edge of
>> the valve cover was damp with oil to boot.  It will wait another month
>> or so to be fixed.
>>
>> Could my condition have anything to do with the +20hp StuporChip I got
>> from EBay?
>>
>> Ian-
>> The O2s have both been replaced since I purchased the car, so within
>> 25,000 miles.  The car doesn't burn any oil(I'm going to regret saying
>> that).  The MAF is a Lincoln unit that was a part of the SHOshop stage
> 1
>> kit.  My skinny arms have no problem getting back behind the motor;)
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John J.
> Weidenbenner
>> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:29 AM
>> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>>
>> Paul's right. The EGR sensor would only affect the rear bank.
>>
>> John W.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Paul Nimz" <pnimz@v8sho.com>
>> To: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>>
>>
>>> That's the front bank, I'd pull the plugs up front and see if they
> are
>> all
>>> similar or if one is much more white than the others.
>>>
>>> Paul Nimz
>>> '97 TR
>>> '93 EG mtx
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