[Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214

[Carl Prochilo]

Leaky cam seal, difficulty starting, 214 code....  Do the math.
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson

On Sun, November 28, 2004 6:11 pm, Paul Nimz said:
>>It usually takes between one to two
>> seconds of cranking to start my SHO.
>
> Classic cam position sensor symptom.
>
> Paul Nimz
> '97 TR
> '93 EG mtx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>
> To: "'Paul Nimz'" <pnimz@v8sho.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 1997 2:55 PM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>
>
>>I get 176 first, then the 214
>>
>> The o2 sensor was from Napa.  This was before I became aware that the
>> Bosch was better
>>
>> Am I correct in assuming that when a CID goes bad, it can take several
>> attempts before the car will start?  It usually takes between one to two
>> seconds of cranking to start my SHO.  Every once in a while I'll have to
>> turn the key twice.  I have a CID on hand if it totally dies on me.
>> Could there be some oil buildup in the sensor that is weakening the
>> magnetic field (I guess that's how it works).
>>
>>>> Could my condition have anything to do with the +20hp StuporChip I
>> got
>>>> from EBay?
>>
>>>Is it properly installed between your ears?  :)
>>
>> Yeah, it's in but those ends were pointy
>>
>> Mike Bruce
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
>> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:23 PM
>> To: Mike Bruce; shotimes@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>>
>>> Could my condition have anything to do with the +20hp StuporChip I got
>>> from EBay?
>>
>> Is it properly installed between your ears?  :)
>>
>> What kind of O2 sensors are you using?  Perhaps a different brand?  NGK
>> makes the OEM Ford ones.
>>
>> Paul Nimz
>> '97 TR
>> '93 EG mtx
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>
>> To: "'John J. Weidenbenner'" <johnjweid@charter.net>;
>> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Friday, November 28, 1997 9:15 AM
>> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>>
>>
>>> Just looked at the front plugs.  They all appear the same to me. A
>>> little white on the ground, and some black elsewhere.  I don't see
>>> anything too wrong with that.
>>> I figured the same about the EGR, but I looked it over anyhow.
>> Visually
>>> no problems.
>>> All signs point to the front O2 sensor.  I've removed and installed
>>> those buggers countless times over the last 2.75 years.  I think I may
>>> have a spare around here somewhere.
>>> The CID sensor looked like it was covered in grime.  The rear edge of
>>> the valve cover was damp with oil to boot.  It will wait another month
>>> or so to be fixed.
>>>
>>> Could my condition have anything to do with the +20hp StuporChip I got
>>> from EBay?
>>>
>>> Ian-
>>> The O2s have both been replaced since I purchased the car, so within
>>> 25,000 miles.  The car doesn't burn any oil(I'm going to regret saying
>>> that).  The MAF is a Lincoln unit that was a part of the SHOshop stage
>> 1
>>> kit.  My skinny arms have no problem getting back behind the motor;)
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>>> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John J.
>> Weidenbenner
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:29 AM
>>> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>>>
>>> Paul's right. The EGR sensor would only affect the rear bank.
>>>
>>> John W.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Paul Nimz" <pnimz@v8sho.com>
>>> To: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's the front bank, I'd pull the plugs up front and see if they
>> are
>>> all
>>>> similar or if one is much more white than the others.
>>>>
>>>> Paul Nimz
>>>> '97 TR
>>>> '93 EG mtx
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