[Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
Leigh Smith
leighsm@comcast.net
Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:50:16 -0500
Wow! Why don't you put a new cam seal in there?
Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
> http://www.superhighoutput.com/gallery/data/media/1/cam_sensor_rotor.JPG
>
> http://www.superhighoutput.com/gallery/data/media/1/cam_sensor_cap.JPG
>
> Here's what I found when I removed the Cam sensor. I cleaned everything
> with Simple Green and reinstalled the cap. I figured it couldn't hurt
> to clean up the mess. We'll see if the car will start tomorrow morning.
> Thanks for the help everyone!!
>
> Steve-
> Thanks for offering, but I'm quite happy with my demo. I just need to
> be a little more careful with my clock settings.
>
> Mike Bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Hartberger
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:15 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>
> and yet, both the "from" field and the three words directly below this
> post list your last name... and pffff... I have so many pirated things
> it's not even funny... :-|
>
> Jason "H"
>
> Steve Tatro wrote:
>
> >That's sad. You want a full copy of 2002 (or even 2004)?
> >
> >Please, nobody turn me in to Autodesk.
> >
> >For safety I'm not signing this using my whole name. Go ahead, try to
> find me.
> >
> >Steve T.
> >Red/Black '93 with 180k miles
> >Monroe, Ohio.
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:44:58 -0500, Mike Bruce <shoitoff@verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>What are you talking about? The year is 1997, The Spice Girls are at
> >>the top of their game, and the president's a Demi-crat. Yeah, I know
> >>I'm living in the past. I had to set the computer back so that my
> copy
> >>of AutoCAD 2002 would function. It's a demo copy that expired a year
> or
> >>so ago.
> >>
> >>Thanks for catching that. This message should have the correct date.
> >>
> >>Do you think it would help if I were to take the sensor off the car,
> >>clean the rotor and magnet housing, and reinstall. I don't want to
> have
> >>to put new parts on a car with a leaky cam seal. Otherwise, I'll just
> >>continue driving the car as it is until the next batch of +20 cams is
> >>made.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Mike Bruce
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> >>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jason Hartberger
> >>Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 7:22 PM
> >>To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> >>Cc: Mike Bruce
> >>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
> >>
> >>are you aware that your computer thinks it's 1997? all the posts I get
> >>from you are dated 1997, and turn up at the bottom of the stack... my
> >>messages are sorted by date...
> >>
> >>Jason
> >>
> >>Mike Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hey all!
> >>>
> >>>Within the past few weeks (since the weather has gotten colder), my
> 93
> >>>ATX has started showing the CEL. While driving normally, under 2/3
> >>>throttle, I get no light. I do get a light for a couple minutes
> after
> >>>spirited driving. Usually, the light appears about 5 to 10 seconds
> >>>after resuming a safe, sane, driving style. I can get the light on
> the
> >>>freeway, and twisty back roads. All that seems to matter is that the
> >>>secondaries are open.
> >>>
> >>>After pulling codes, I get 176(left bank o2 sensor lean), and 214(CID
> >>>circuit failure). I get the same codes after resetting the computer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>driving for a few days.
> >>>
> >>>The car is a SHOshop stage 2 car with a Dynomax cat-back. I have a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>D4U1
> >>
> >>
> >>>with a generically tuned LPM. Both o2 sensors have less than 3 years
> >>>
> >>>
> >>on
> >>
> >>
> >>>them. I have not noticed any loss of power or any other problems.
> If
> >>>it weren't for the light, I would think the car was operating
> >>>perfectly(aside from the leaky cam seal). I plan on replacing the
> cam
> >>>seals when I install +20 cams. Speaking of the leaky cam seal, which
> I
> >>>think may be the one on the cam position sensor, could the leak be
> >>>fouling the CID sensor and setting the code?
> >>>
> >>>About the 176 code. I know the chip is not set perfectly for my car
> >>>
> >>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>will need to be tuned after cams. Would it be possible that a poor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>tune
> >>
> >>
> >>>would cause an erratic A/F ratio coming off load to set a code and
> >>>illuminate the CEL?
> >>>
> >>>If you've read all that, thank you. I eagerly anticipate your
> replies.
> >>>
> >>>Mike Bruce
> >>>93 ATX
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