[Shotimes] 3.2 swap major oil leak after start?

[Bruce Malachuk]

Ok what I got figured out is this. Because I'm running no upper timing
cover, I cal look down to the CPS and front crank seal. Looks dry down there
but can't be 100%, first thing tomorrow is pull all the timeing covers off
and then get the engine running witout covers. That way I can pinpoint the
leak. Had I been intelligent I would have done that to start with.

I don't believe that I could have rolled the seal on that end of the pan,
though it is possible. I did all that while the engine was upside down on
the standand I made sure that I held my fingers on the seals as I placed
them on there. I guess that if I have to pull the pan I'd be happier doing
that then the oilpump gasket while the engine is in the car. I had
tremendous cranking oil pressure while priming the engine. I was making
40psi just from the starter motor and 120F 5w30 oil. (yes I preheated the
oil in hot water) When I had the car running I was making 75psi at 1500rpm
with that 120F oil. I'm wondering if that has something to do with the
gasket possibly blowing or what not. 

The engine block never had any plugs removed. This block stayed complete
with heads in my garage most of the summer. Now I did have some fireing
order problems and popping when I first started her up, but that's cause I
let someone else put the plug wires on and do the FO. I learned my lesson. 5
& 6 on the wrong coils. After fixing that I noticed the puddle on the floor.
BTW fidanza and midwest/SHOnut +20 cams gave me a nice throaty idle at 800
which barely kept running, 1500rpm the car purrs. 1100 idle and it sounds
like a normal SHO at 800ish. 

It was a felpro gasket from the oil pan kit. I should have never messed with
pulling the pump off and replacing the gasket. I'mn betting that it is the
damn gasket there. The oil pump gasket requires me to drop the pan, and I
hate doing that with the SF in the car, so I might just be pulling the motor
back out. 


Bruce J Malachuk

*	94 Opal Frost MTX 
*	93 Emerald Green MTX 
*	93 Black ATX - parts 
*	95 Silver Frost ATX SE - SLO 


-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Leigh Smith
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:26 AM
To: Bruce Malachuk; shotimes@autox.team.net; TechSHO@topica.com
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 3.2 swap major oil leak after start?

Bruce;
Where the pump meets the block, front side of crank, is the main engine oil
feed hole, roughly 3/8 in diameter, and under high pressure. I had major
engine block damage on my car from someone removing the oil pump by prying
it with a screwdriver!!! Make sure both gasket surfaces are in good
condition, and the gasket is OK. It is only paper. Did the 3.0 gasket go
around that hole correctly?

Only other major oil leak point I could think of would be the main oil
gallery block plug. Were these removed during block cleaning? Put back? Mine
was under the water pump (IIRC) and was a large allen screw. (10mm??)

Compared to those two possible sources, the crank oil seal would be minor.
Lee
PS I had a major water leak, kinda like a garden hose. Thermostat o-ring
gasket got twisted? or pressurized before tightened? but anyway it popped
out of position on one side.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>; <TechSHO@topica.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:46 PM
Subject: [Shotimes] 3.2 swap major oil leak after start?


> I got a serious oil leak on my 3.2 swap. over by the oil pump, can't tell
> yet exactly where it is. use a 3.2 block, 3.2 heads, and 3.2 oilpump.
> Removed the pump and replaced the gasket with a 3.0 gasket and trimmed off
> the leftover part. Anyone that has done 3.2 swaps run into something like
> this? I'm gonna get under the car right now, but I wanted to get some
input
> from the "groups" out there.
>
> Bruce J Malachuk
>
> * 94 Opal Frost MTX
>
> * 93 Emerald Green MTX
>
> * 93 Black ATX - parts
>
> * 95 Silver Frost ATX SE - SLO
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