[Shotimes] How to get 300HP from your 3.0L SHO engine

[Bruce Malachuk]

I'm adding 30# accels to my car over the winter. I plan to dyno next Friday
after I get finished matching up the EH runners and get the BBB's put
together. I have a WB 02, with tweecer R/T, plus a whole host of other mods
on my freshly installed 3.2 block. I'll provide results when I get all
finished. I'll prolly dyno again next spring after I get the 30# injectors
in and tuned. 


Bruce J Malachuk

*	94 Opal Frost MTX 
*	93 Emerald Green MTX 
*	93 Black ATX - parts 
*	95 Silver Frost ATX SE - SLO 


-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of cmichaelo@optonline.net
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:51 PM
To: gr8sho@adelphia.net
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] How to get 300HP from your 3.0L SHO engine

Well, I think the main reason why noone has seen 300HP yet is two-fold...

1) their fuel injectors probably can not keep up (so in reality, I should
have added that to the list below), and
2) the wideband HEGO and tweecer are really needed to increase WOT hp
(bascically, noone has this mod yet, as far as I know)

Michael
94MTX,green,BOS+,Koni/Intrax,Baer,Corbeau
SHO items for sale: http://hometown.aol.com/cmichaelo/for_sale.html

----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Prochilo <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
Date: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] How to get 300HP from your 3.0L SHO engine

> You'd have to get about 250HP to the wheels (assuming 17% loss due to 
> the
> MTX-IV) to make 300HP at the crank.  You cannot statically add 
> individualmods and expect the interaction of them to sum like that.  
> If someone has built a car like this and has proof via a Dynojet 
> graph, I'd like to see it and the list of mods.
> --
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
> 
> On Thu, October 21, 2004 11:47 am, cmichaelo@optonline.net said:
> > OK this is always fun.  How much HP do we get from each mod in a
> 3.0L> engine? (This of course precludes adding displacement....:)
> >
> > What so fun about this is that it quite easy to increase the HP
> of this
> > engine without affecting the cars usefulness as a daily driver
> and also
> > without taking an equity loan on your house. You can probably do
> the below
> > modifications for ~$5000 + labor.
> >
> > The HP numbers below are estimated based on the assumption that all 
> > modifications are initially installed in the car (thus producing
> 300HP).> Then I take one modification away and "estimate" the HP drop.
> >
> >                                                Subtotal
> > Base setup:        220HP
> >                                                    220HP Rotating 
> > mass (external):
> > UDP:                     5HP
> > 8lbs flywheel          2HP
> >                                                    227HP
> > Exhaust:
> > HiFlow Y-pipe:       10HP
> > 2 1/2" catback:        5HP
> >                                                    242HP
> > Intake:
> > 77mmMAF + CAI +
> > 69mmTB:              12HP
> > BBB + EH +
> > porting:                 15HP
> > +20 CAMs:           15HP
> >                                                    284HP
> > Electronics:
> > WideBand HEGO +
> > Tweecer:               15HP
> >                                                    299HP
> > Lubrication:
> > Amsoil 5W30:         1HP
> >                                                    300HP
> >
> > There are other things one can do, but that will affect the
> usability of
> > the car as a family sedan, namely:
> >
> > Intake:
> > +40 CAMs            10HP (assuming a +20 base)
> >
> > Rotating mass (internal):
> > Forged crank +
> > rods + pistons:     10HP
> >                                                    320HP
> >
> > For a grand total of 320HP.
> >
> > And there are probably other tricks too, such as flipping the
> [forged]> pistons 180deg, lowering friction of all turning parts by 
> properly coating
> > them, etc.
> >
> > What do you think the HP numbers should be???
> >
> >
> > Michael
> > 94MTX,green,BOS+,Koni/Intrax,Baer,Corbeau
> > SHO items for sale: http://hometown.aol.com/cmichaelo/for_sale.html
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