[Shotimes] snow tires vs all season

[Ian Fisher]

First off, a big thanks to everyone who has responded
both on and offlist. I am probably going to go with
215/55/16's. From what Mike Bruce said earlier,
anything taller than 55 may rub the fenders with the
wilwoods.

Anyone know anything about the Pirelli Winter
directionals? I'm looking at a used set that's local
to me, less than 4K on them..Tirerack didn't have any
info on them so I assume it's a discontinued tire.

thanks again
Ian

--- Donald Mallinson <dmall@mwonline.net> wrote:

> Ian,
> 
> I don't agree with Ron on this issue (surprise!) :)
> 
> A good set of winter tires will outperform the best
> all 
> season tires by a wide margin.  A better indicator
> of IF you 
> need them is how important it is that you be out on
> the few 
> really bad days you will get?  If it is important,
> then get 
> winter tires.
> 
> I bought a set of Winter tires (Yokohama Guardex)
> for my '89 
> SHO at a time when I had to be at work every day
> (owner, 
> sole employee) and I loved them once I got used to
> the odd 
> handling (like having four tires low on air, till I
> pumped 
> them up to about 40 psi and just got used to it).
> 
> These tires are STILL going almost 8 years later.  I
> drove 
> them for three winters and one entire summer.  My
> son has 
> now used them for four more winters and they STILL
> have 
> enough tread to outperform new all-season tires.
> 
> Do NOT believe the myth that winter tires wear super
> fast, 
> they do not.  Some high-performance versions may,
> but my 
> Yoko's felt like a gum eraser from an art store
> (super soft) 
> but have worn like iron.
> 
> I could take my SHO out and play with the snow plows
> and 
> that was a great feeling.
> 
> YOu want a more narrow tire for winter than summer. 
> I think 
> the Guardex by Yokohama in 215-65-16 size should run
> you 
> under $80 per tire, maybe less than that.  They are
> quiet 
> and have good dry traction, you just need to get
> used to the 
> very soft sidewalls giving an odd feeling when you
> turn the 
> wheel, but that is part of why they behave so well
> on snow/ice.
> 
> Don Mallinson
> 
> Ian Fisher wrote:
> > I just picked up a set of slicers to use for snow
> > duty. Was checking some prices on a tirerack ad
> that I
> > have. Cheapest snow tires I found (IIRC) were the
> > Dunlop Graspic's at $84ish. I think they were 215
> or
> > 225/55/16.
> > 
> > In NJ we don't get a lot of snow over a long
> period of
> > time. We may get 1-2 weeks of heavy snow, so when
> it's
> > here, it can be here in full effect. I am debating
> > getting all seasons with good M+S ratings or cheap
> > snow tires. Either way, the key words are cheap,
> wear
> > and grip (in snow and dry).
> > 
> > As soon as the roads clear up (late Jan-feb?), the
> > 17's with hipo rubber will go back on and the 16's
> > will sit in the shed for next winter.
> > 
> > opinions? reccomendations? 
> > 
> > thanks
> > Ian
> 
> 
> 



		
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