TwEECer benefits, wasRe: [Shotimes] Just out of curiosity... (LPM)

[Ian Fisher]

You are correct, the car is tuned pretty well for a
stock car IMO. However, others have found huge room
for improvement with minimal "tweaking". When you
start to add mods like Y pipes, catbacks, etc you'll
see more improvements because you can adjust the A/F
ratio accordingly. Having control over your own tuning
is great and rewarding if you are willing to learn and
tinker a bit. I will admit that I do not yet have my
TwEECer or WB installed yet but others have found
great  improvements using theirs. 

YMMV

Ian
--- Mike <srfdude@cox.net> wrote:

> Without being negative, what sort of improvement
> could one expect to see
> from any tuning device with an otherwise stock car,
> except perhaps Y-pipe?
> I was under the impression the car was pretty well
> tuned stock, without much
> room for improvement.  Seems to me tuners are not of
> much use, except for
> the novelty, until the mods start.  I put a SS
> Y-pipe on my car and the butt
> dyno didn't show much difference; although
> admittedly its not calibrated too
> well ;-).  It did add a little rasp over 4K, though.
>  If we assume the gain
> to be ~5 hp, that is less than 2.5%.  Will the
> tweecer improve on that?
> Mike
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ian Fisher" <dataflash@yahoo.com>
> To: "Hartberger, Jason M. AT3 (AW)"
> <hartbejm@roosevelt.navy.mil>; "SHOtimes
> mailing list (E-mail)" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:31 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Just out of curiosity...
> (LPM)
> 
> 
> > I paid $460 for my used TwEECer RT and $250
> shipped
> > for my PLX 250 WB02.
> >
> > I am currently working part time for little pay
> while
> > I go to grad school at night. When money is tight,
> > I've learned to work more, spend less or don't
> spend
> > at all.
> >
> > If you want to get into modifying a well
> maintained
> > SHO for more power on a budget, the TwEECer and a
> Y
> > pipe are the pretty much the first mods to
> consider.
> > Wasting time and money on 73mm MAF's and LPM's is
> > money that could be put towards something
> beneficial
> > like a TwEECEr and/or WB02 with actual positive
> > results. ...and no, I'm not suggesting that
> everyone
> > go out and spend the money on a TwEECER...just my
> 2
> > cents
> >
> > Ian
> > --- "Hartberger, Jason M.  AT3 (AW)"
> > <hartbejm@roosevelt.navy.mil> wrote:
> > > yeah, and like $500 friggin' dollars... I'm in
> the
> > > navy, I don't make that
> > > much friggin' money!
> > >
> > > Oh, and like $300 more for the WB02 setup. I've
> > > looked at it before. I'll
> > > stick with my "reprogram for $20" LPM any day,
> thank
> > > you.
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ian Fisher [mailto:dataflash@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:55 PM
> > > To: Hartberger, Jason M. AT3 (AW); SHOtimes
> mailing
> > > list (E-mail)
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Just out of curiosity...
> > > (LPM)
> > >
> > >
> > > the LPM is yesterday's news. Say hello to
> > > www.tweecer.com
> > >
> > > All you need is a laptop, a wideband O2, some
> > > courage
> > > and some sense.
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Hartberger, Jason M.  AT3 (AW)"
> > > <hartbejm@roosevelt.navy.mil> wrote:
> > > > How exactly would one go about programming an
> LPM?
> > > > I'm not really looking to
> > > > get into the business or anything, but how
> would
> > > you
> > > > do it? is there like a
> > > > program out there that'll do it or do you have
> to
> > > do
> > > > the low-level
> > > > programming yourself with a hex editor or
> > > > whatever... is there hardware out
> > > > there for reading those things? I'm just
> curious,
> > > > that's all... I've been
> > > > wondering about it for a while. I know it's
> hard
> > > > (otherwise more people than
> > > > Ted would be doing it) and there's a lot of
> skill
> > > > involved but i'm just
> > > > wondering what the setup's like.
> > > >
> > > > Jason
> > > >
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