[Shotimes] OT: Cadillac CTS

Ron Porter ronporter@prodigy.net
Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:27:50 -0400


I believe that all of the standard 5-series BMWs have the steering control.
M cars don't. Don't remember from the tests if it can be modified. I thought
it could.

Sure, many ways to tweak things. Also, driving technique becomes a part of
it. In trying to "unlearn" my FWD driving techniques at Putnam Park, the LGT
seemed to understeer. As I got the hang of AWD, it became very neutral, and
the tail-end tracked nicely. Looking at the relatively even wear on my
left-side tires (lotsa right turns at Putnam!!) confirmed it.

Also, what works/doesn't work on a low-speed parking lot course is not
necessarily what works on higher-speed sweepers. I suspect the BMW will feel
much better out on the Autobahn.

When I did the new C5 comparison test (in the parking lot of Churchill Downs
back in '98.....a 1/2-mile and 1-mile courses were laid out), they let us
drive them as we chose. Only thing they didn't have was a manual-tranny car.
Looks like they've gotten soft over the last few years!

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:24 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT: Cadillac CTS

I don't know if it had active steering.  Is there a button to disable it?  I
may go to one of these again.  I was trying to think of ways that GM may
have stacked the deck.  Unfortunately, I came up with many easy ways like
tires, pressure, dirty air filters, etc.

The Corvette was being driven in valet mode, so I was very disappointed with
GM for wasting my time.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul L Fisher
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:11 AM
>
> Did it (the BMW) have the 'active steering'? I hear it is an
> acquired taste.
>
>
> Paul L Fisher
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Bob
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:49 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT: Cadillac CTS
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Fisher
> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:44 PM
> >
> > ... I had low expectations and felt that the BMW was going to be the car
> that won
> > my heart for the day. Wow, I was wrong.
>
> I drove the same combo at a GM Ride and Drive event and had similar
> expectations going in.
>
> > The CTS went wherever I pointed it.
>
> And that was the thing I remembered when I walked away from it.  The BMW
> pushed to the point where I was scrubbing the fronts and steering with the
> rear end of the car (yes, they did get a bit huffy about my driving).  The
> CTS just turned in and wanted more.
>
> The other failing of the BMW was the steering feel.  That's what BMWs are
> supposed to be about, and these new BMWs are just sucking the life out of
> the car through the steering wheel.  It's sad.  The CTS wins hands down.
>
> > The traction system even lets the back step out a bit before it jumps in
> and straightens everything out.
>
> That was a surprise too.  It worked fairly well.
>
> 	-- Bob
> 	'94 ATX
> 	'89 MTX
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