[Shotimes] The Pillsbury Effect

[Ian Fisher]

I have a business paypal account so I can accept
credit card payments. The fees are probably higher
than a merchant services account with a local bank but
I don't have a business tax EIN nor do I want/need one
at this time. Paypal fills that need nicely. I hate it
when I need to paypal people and they don't accept
credit cards. It does prevent me from racking up debt
but I feel very unprotected when I can't use a card.
I've dealt with you (Ron) and I trust you so that's a
non issue. However, it's the Nick Buck's, Dave
Pillsbury's, and the other unknowns that I feel wary
about dealing with. At this point, I really only deal
with those I trust or use a card. If the person is an
unknown who doesn't accept a credit card then I just
don't deal. A USPS postal MO is a viable option but
it's not as easy to file a claim as calling up your
credit/debit card issuer and filing a dispute.

Ian

--- Ron Porter <ronporter@prodigy.net> wrote:

> That only works if you are paying someone with a
> Business PayPal account.
> 
> You cannot pay a personal account (like mine, and
> probably 90%+ of all
> PayPal accounts) with a credit card. Folks have
> tried, and it gets bounced,
> unless the recipient upgrades to a Business
> account.....which folks like
> myself will never do.
> 
> Personally, I think PayPal is one of the slickest
> ideas to come out of the
> Internet bubble, along with Ebay. It isn't the
> perfect method for everyone,
> but it has done a very good job of filling a huge
> need. I'm not very
> sympathetic to a lot of the bitching about PayPal,
> as the whiners seem to
> think that PayPal should assume a "nanny" role in
> transactions (which I
> obviously disagree with). Do they do everything
> perfectly? No, but they work
> to keep improving their system.
> 
> Ron Porter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Kevin & Cheryl Airth
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:48 AM
> To: JohnnyVan; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] The Pillsbury Effect
> 
> John:
>  One tip I use that someone on the list suggested.
> ALWAYS use a credit card
> when paying with Paypal. Then all you need to do is
> call the credit card
> company and dispute the charges. Works like a
> charm!! Let the rip-off artist
> deal with VISA! I had a yutz selling me some SHO
> parts doing all the normal
> BS. Said 3 times the parts were sent and the post
> office "Must of lost
> them". But when I pulled the money using my credit
> card, I received the
> parts and a long e-mail crying about how I had
> cheated him. Boo, Hoo! After
> receiving the parts I then repaid him with Paypal
> using my credit card. Also
> called him and left a great message about how NOT to
> cheat people. I would
> mention his name but he left the list right around
> the time he tried to
> cheat me.
> 
>   PayPal will NEVER do anything. It's not their
> problem and they make sure
> of it!!!!! That's why Ebay purchased them. One
> no-service company adding
> another no-service company to the corporate stack!!!
> .
> .
> 
> 
>  I also just contacted PayPal and they were no help
> (more
> > than 45 days elapsed).  Any suggestions.
> >
> > Does anyone have a set of timing belt covers for
> my 94 SHO ATX.  Any
> > help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John Vanchieri
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