[Shotimes] The Pillsbury Effect

[Noah South III]

Hey Al, you should remind these fellows that you KNOW WHERE THEY
LIVE....cause you had to ship stuff to them.  Just casually mention you have
a couple of friends named Guido and Vinny that live in their area, and they
would be more than happy to discuss some important matters with them.

I mean, if someone was a REAL asshole about something, and I knew where they
lived, I'd see it as a great excuse for a weekend vacation.  Some people
think they're safe when they hide behind a computer screen so they tend to
let their REAL personality out.

Thank god I don't live in Korea and play MMORPGS.   

GGNORE!!11  KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE!!!!!!111111oneone

-Noah South III

P.S......If you know what that last line means....you've lost in Starcraft
against a Korean....

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Al Fitz
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:59 PM
To: van Oss
Cc: _SHOtimes
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] The Pillsbury Effect

This is not a good idea. There are many more unscrupulous customers than
sellers. I'll give you an example:

Customer orders a timing belt tensioner and after you ship it he says what
he really wanted was a timing belt tensioner PULLEY. He doesn't want the
tensioner at all. He doesn't want to pay for it and if I want it back I have
to pay him for shipping and handling.

Another example, a customer wants a stereo system for his GEN III. I ship
him the amp, wiring, head unit, and CD player. I don't have a CD cassette
but he can pick one up locally for under $30. Customers says that it is an
incomplete system and refuses to pay and I must pay him $100+ to have it
shipped back.

These are real examples...

BTW, anyone have a tensioner pulley for sale?


AL FITZ SHO SPECIALS
alfitz@alfitz.com

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net>
To: "Zach Leahy" <leahyz@gmail.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] The Pillsbury Effect


> There you go being sensible again.   : )    It's a grand idea, although I
> wonder if it would make sellers vulnerable to fickle buyers.  I've sold
car
> parts on eBay and would not want my payment to be held hostage until a
> stranger either decides he's content or fails/neglects to complain.
>
> The eBay/PayPal people surely wrestle often with the issue of balancing
> seller and buyer interests.  I suspect they are mindful that their fees
are
> paid by sellers, and that fact is their reason to err in favor of the
> seller.  The same happens in a traditional real estate deal --- when you
buy
> property, remember that your buyer's agent is paid by the seller.
>
> VO
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> It seems to me that there should be provisions for this (unknown
> buyer/extra protection).  Perhaps it would make sense for sales if
> this took place:
>
> Buy and seller agree on item, price etc.
> Buyer submits payment
> Paypal holds payment until buyer confirms delivery
> Package gets delivered
> Buyer acknowleges delivery
> Seller gets money
>
> Paypal could make it so after a certain amount of time if the buyer
> does not confirm delivery, and no non-deliver claim is made, that the
> seller is paid regardless of actual delivery or not (to prevent the
> problem of forgetting/not responding to delivery status so the seller
> is paid)  Either way, unless there was a non delivery and there was a
> claim filed the buyer has already paid the money, they have just
> submitted it to Paypal and they will hold it until the package comes
> through.
>
> Perhaps this could be an option for a dollor or two more, as a
> protection against unknowns.
>
> Just a thought
>
> Z
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