[Shotimes] The Pillsbury Effect

[Ron Porter]

I don't think it's a good idea, either. They work as intermediaries between
the buyer & seller, and it's in everyone's best interest for them to stay
relatively disinterested. For them to assume the "nanny" role opens up a
whole 'nother can of worms. Their level of involvement today is about right,
and they will tweak details as time goes o, and people come up with new ways
to screw them.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Al Fitz
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:59 PM
To: van Oss
Cc: _SHOtimes
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] The Pillsbury Effect

This is not a good idea. There are many more unscrupulous customers than
sellers. I'll give you an example:

Customer orders a timing belt tensioner and after you ship it he says what
he really wanted was a timing belt tensioner PULLEY. He doesn't want the
tensioner at all. He doesn't want to pay for it and if I want it back I have
to pay him for shipping and handling.

Another example, a customer wants a stereo system for his GEN III. I ship
him the amp, wiring, head unit, and CD player. I don't have a CD cassette
but he can pick one up locally for under $30. Customers says that it is an
incomplete system and refuses to pay and I must pay him $100+ to have it
shipped back.

These are real examples...

BTW, anyone have a tensioner pulley for sale?


AL FITZ SHO SPECIALS
alfitz@alfitz.com

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "van Oss" <vanOss@centurytel.net>
To: "Zach Leahy" <leahyz@gmail.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] The Pillsbury Effect


> There you go being sensible again.   : )    It's a grand idea, although I
> wonder if it would make sellers vulnerable to fickle buyers.  I've sold
car
> parts on eBay and would not want my payment to be held hostage until a
> stranger either decides he's content or fails/neglects to complain.
>
> The eBay/PayPal people surely wrestle often with the issue of balancing
> seller and buyer interests.  I suspect they are mindful that their fees
are
> paid by sellers, and that fact is their reason to err in favor of the
> seller.  The same happens in a traditional real estate deal --- when you
buy
> property, remember that your buyer's agent is paid by the seller.
>
> VO
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> It seems to me that there should be provisions for this (unknown
> buyer/extra protection).  Perhaps it would make sense for sales if
> this took place:
>
> Buy and seller agree on item, price etc.
> Buyer submits payment
> Paypal holds payment until buyer confirms delivery
> Package gets delivered
> Buyer acknowleges delivery
> Seller gets money
>
> Paypal could make it so after a certain amount of time if the buyer
> does not confirm delivery, and no non-deliver claim is made, that the
> seller is paid regardless of actual delivery or not (to prevent the
> problem of forgetting/not responding to delivery status so the seller
> is paid)  Either way, unless there was a non delivery and there was a
> claim filed the buyer has already paid the money, they have just
> submitted it to Paypal and they will hold it until the package comes
> through.
>
> Perhaps this could be an option for a dollor or two more, as a
> protection against unknowns.
>
> Just a thought
>
> Z
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