[Shotimes] OT: Ebay discount coupons ...now SOLO

[Leigh Smith]

Ron;
Yes you summed it up in less words than I can.
Good tires are faster, and yes they are expendable, and yes Don, the fastest
tire at the track isn't the same as the fastest one at an auto-cross. But
the fastest ones still only last a couple track weekends.
Ron; I also had a hard time with non-repeatable courses. Until I fell in
with the fast group. We would all arrange to go to the same autocross on the
same day, even if it meant driving 200 miles. Then we would base our times
against the fastest of our group. Sometimes A was fastest, sometimes B.
Worked great even if the track was not repeatable.
If none of our group showed, it was not a lot of fun beating the locals by
2-3 seconds.
Lee




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: <SHOtimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT: Ebay discount coupons ...now SOLO


> Well, it's all a matter of interpretation (Leigh can fill us in), but if
you
> are running competitive track events, a set of tires a day sounds pretty
> reasonable to me. If you are a backmarker, or mid-pack, maybe not. If you
> wanna win, tires are expendable.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Mallinson [mailto:dmall@mwonline.net]
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:15 PM
> To: Ron Porter
> Cc: SHOtimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT: Ebay discount coupons ...now SOLO
>
> Ron,
>
> you missed the point.  He has been talking about how he wears out a set
> of tires in one day at track events, not autocross, so if he is running
> his soft autocross tires at the track, that not only is cause for
> extreme wear, but it probably is slowing him down, since quite often
> soft autocross tires get too hot and greasy in a high speed
> environment.  He hasn't said I got it wrong, just talking about his
> experience.  I still think it sounds like he is running thewrong tires
> on the track. Probably the right ones for autocross.
>
> Point is there is no need, in a properly driven and set up car with
> correct decent tires, to wear them out in one day, and with the correct
> tires, he can still run with the big dogs.
>
> Don Mallinson
>
> Ron Porter wrote:
>
> >But, if he's running auto-x competitively, those are the tires that he
> ought
> >to be running!
> >
> >Here is part of Leigh's comments from an earlier post:
> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >I have done both Solo 1 & 2 & Pro Solo events for 18+ years. They are all
a
> >hoot but in different ways.
> >I leaned toward Solo II, because of the expense. I never spent over $1500
a
> >year and some years I hit 27 events. I was very competitive locally,
> >regionally and even against several national champions. I could have been
> >close nationally, but never wanted to up the $ commitment (on the car).
Yet
> >every high-speed event I ran cost me $400-500 a weekend, (vs $50 for Solo
> >II).
> >+++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >Ron Porter
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> >On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
> >Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 11:32 PM
> >To: SHOtimes@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT: Ebay discount coupons ...now SOLO
> >
> >If you are running the autocross versions of tires on the track, then
> >that is your problem!  That is what your note  seemed to imply that.
> >
> >Most race tires come in both autocross and road race versions.  The Road
> >race version is a bit harder, they take more time to come up to
> >temperature.  Also, you don't really want autocross tires heat cycled,
> >but it is almost a necessity for road racing.
> >
> >Don Mallinson
> >
> >Leigh Smith wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Understood;
> >>It's just that the group I ran with included 5 national champions, and
we
> >>all ran the fastest tires available. They do make a difference. Worth 1
to
> >>maybe 2 seconds.  They would last from 10-20 autocrosses but go away in
2
> >>
> >>
> >or
> >
> >
> >>3 track events.
> >>But man were they great fun while they lasted!
> >>BTW long lurid 4 wheel drifts are great fun! You should try it more
often!
> >>Lee
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